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Old 05-20-2008, 11:05 AM
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Default Hybrid battery replacement cost

I keep hearing that Toyota and Honda have a 10 year warranty on their batteries. Is that really true? Do they last longer, and what will it cost to replace one?
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:13 AM
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Honda's warranty varies by state. In most states the IMA battery warranty is 8 years 80,000 miles. Back in a flash.....

http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-hybrid/warranty.aspx

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# Its IMA battery pack comes with an 8-year/80,000-mile warranty, or a 10-year/150,000-mile warranty in CA,CT, MA, ME, NY or VT.* See your dealer for details.
Toyota's warranty:

http://www.toyota.com/html/hybridsyn...l/battery.html

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The high-voltage batteries are warranted for eight years or 100,000 miles, and under California regulations the battery warranty extends to 10 years or 150,000 miles.
http://www.toyota.com/prius-hybrid/warranty.html

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Hybrid-related components for hybrid vehicles are covered for 8 years/100,000 miles. The HV battery may have longer coverage under emissions warranty. Refer to applicable Owner's Warranty Information booklet for details.

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Old 05-20-2008, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: Hybrid battery replacement cost

Non-warranty, Prius battery replacements have been running around $4.7k including labor. However, some have used salvage packs, $500-1,200 and I'm working on a battery refurbishment technique that should be significantly less expensive, $50 although you'll have to do a lot of labor, ~40 hrs.

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Old 05-20-2008, 02:48 PM
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Non-warranty, Prius battery replacements have been running around $4.7k including labor.

Bob Wilson
I've also seen prices around $4k for non-warranty replacements.

From Toyota in 2006:

http://www.toyota.com/html/hybridsyn...l/battery.html


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Q: What would it cost to replace a complete battery pack?

GS: Less than $3000, plus labor
Looks like the labor is not exactly cheap.
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Old 05-20-2008, 07:13 PM
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Nick, are you yanking our collective chains? Two posts, two topics... (the the other) Are you thinking of trading in your non-hybrid Highlander?
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:16 PM
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So I was checking out the battery pack specs, and the prices for individual cells. The Insight has:

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IMA battery pack 144 volt NiMH (nickel metal-hydride) battery,
consisting of 120 cells providing 1.2 V each
Rated capacity 6.5 Ah (6500 mAh)
Individual "C" size cells are rated up to 6000 mAh but I couldn't find any that claimed 6500 mAh.

Individual "D" size cells are rated up to 12,000 mAh.

The 6,000 mAh "C" cells are $6 each. 10,000 mAh "D" cells are $7.20 each in packs of 16.

Lets go with the "D" cells since they beat the original spec.

120 times $7.20 is $864!!!

$864!!!!! That is way less than the $4k plus they are charging for a new traction pack and half again the capacity!!

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Old 05-20-2008, 08:26 PM
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If my battery ever fails (out of warranty) I'll give serious thought to just replacing the individual cells, if that is possible.
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:37 PM
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4.7k! eek... This was the determining factor on why I decided on the Jetta over a HCH. The honda salesman wouldnt even quote me a figure for battery replacement, so I knew it was a pretty penny.

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Old 05-21-2008, 06:03 AM
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4.7k! eek... This was the determining factor on why I decided on the Jetta over a HCH. The honda salesman wouldnt even quote me a figure for battery replacement, so I knew it was a pretty penny.
This is perfectly fine because people have different thresholds of 'risk avoidance.' An engineer, I enjoy dealing with new technologies. Others, like my wife, are not technical and really need a system that minimizes her need to master new technologies.

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Old 05-21-2008, 06:07 AM
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from what i have seen, the incidence of needing a replacement battery has been very small. there is a well known prius that recently reached almost 350,000 miles of use, and never had a battery problem.

unfortunately, it was hit by someone who ran a light and pretty much totalled. the driver was fine, the poor car wasn't.

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