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06-01-2004, 09:34 PM
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Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Bill
Location: Phoenix, AZ USA
Hybrids: 2005 Honda Civic and 2007 FEH FWD
Posts: 107
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Hi everyone,
My name is Bill and I've been doing research on Hybrids. I'm debating between a Honda Civic Hybrid and the New Prius. Though, both are hard to get now, and the Prius isn't even available to test drive.
I'm looking forward to reading the posts.
Bill 
Bill
From the Valley of the Sun. -Phoenix, AZ
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06-01-2004, 10:03 PM
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GreenHybrid Founder
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Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
Hybrids: 2004 Toyota Prius
Posts: 4,487
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Welcome. You will find plenty of company here as there are many members waiting for their Prius II. In the end, you'll be deciding between tradition & expediency or breakthrough & delay.
And, please, no one tell me that the HCH is a breakthrough as well.  It isn't technically a hybrid by the strict definition of the term!
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06-02-2004, 06:05 AM
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Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Wayne Gerdes
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 2,567
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Hi Jason:
___Careful now, your bias is showing again …
___Personally, I don’t care that a car is a hybrid, an ICE only, a Diesel, or powered by gerbils. Just get it to 55 miles per hour in a reasonable amount of time and have it receive 100 mpg. I hope you feel the same
___Bill, welcome to the Forum!
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___ Waynegerdes@earthlink.net
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06-02-2004, 07:39 AM
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Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
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Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Hybrids: 2006 HCH / 2007 FEH
Posts: 547
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Quote:
Originally posted by azwildbill2@Jun 1st 2004 @ 11:34 PM
My name is Bill and I've been doing research on Hybrids.
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Welcome Bill!
Support the Troops - Drive a Hybrid!

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06-02-2004, 09:57 AM
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GreenHybrid Founder
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Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
Hybrids: 2004 Toyota Prius
Posts: 4,487
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Xcel,
I knew very well that someone would say something to me. And I went ahead and posted it anyway! Yes, I know I'm biased. I own a Prius. But, biased or not, the HCH is in teh body of a Civic to keep with "tradition" and allow for customers to purchase a hybrid that isn't eccentric.
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06-02-2004, 02:19 PM
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Enthusiast
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Posts: 28
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Hi Bill!
If you go for the Prius, well, you can join me in the wait!
Patiently praying for a Prius
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06-02-2004, 03:37 PM
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Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Bill
Location: Phoenix, AZ USA
Hybrids: 2005 Honda Civic and 2007 FEH FWD
Posts: 107
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Thanks everyone.
Jason - I know the Prius is more advanced technically, but I've driven the HCH and liked it. I'm also noticing that the gas mileage seems to be about the same for both. We shall see, that is why I'm reading up on both. 
Bill
From the Valley of the Sun. -Phoenix, AZ
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06-02-2004, 03:38 PM
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Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Bill
Location: Phoenix, AZ USA
Hybrids: 2005 Honda Civic and 2007 FEH FWD
Posts: 107
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I almost forgot! I had read in some technology magazine that Honda's System is considered a "mild" hybrid, not a "full" hybrid like the Prius or the new Escape.
Bill
From the Valley of the Sun. -Phoenix, AZ
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06-02-2004, 03:49 PM
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GreenHybrid Founder
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Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
Hybrids: 2004 Toyota Prius
Posts: 4,487
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Yes, that's true. In fact, it's not a hybrid at all (as I stated earlier). By strict definition of the word, a hybrid electric vehicle must be able to be propelled by either the engine or the motor. The HCH's electrical system shuts down the engine at lights but cannot propel the car on its own. See the fourth paragraph at http://www.greenhybrid.com/learn/sierra/mild_wild/1.php
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06-02-2004, 04:37 PM
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Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Steve
Location: Atlanta, Ga
Hybrids: 2004 Civic CVT Hybrid
Posts: 1,674
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Jason,
We all know MY car is the best!
(Ok I'm a little biased too)
Anyway azwildbill2 welcome to the community. Your research in knowledge and will lead you to the right car.
Efficient drivers do it better.
1003 miles a tank personal record. 74MPG calculated. HCH1 CVT
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