Nav System & Bluetooth
#101
Re: Nav System & Bluetooth
It solved my problem by completely disconnecting the Bluetooth kit's Mute control from the Nav radio whenever power is off.
But you are right. It was poor design by the Bluetooth kit designers.
As I mentioned, the real oddity is that apparently grounding the Mute input on the Nav radio not only enables the Phone audio inputs, but also will force the Nav radio 'on' even if the vehicle is 'off' (key removed from ignition, driver's door opened, etc). I never expected that to happen.
#102
Re: Nav System & Bluetooth
Well, the "Accessory Enable" is really simply switched 12v power, and that's the power that is maintained 'on' after the vehicle is turned 'off', and until the driver's door is opened. Lots of things are powered off of that, including the windows and the sun roof. I doubt that the adding the Bluetooth kit to it, will effect anything. Matter of fact, I actually "tapped" into it, at the sun roof fuse since I don't have a sun roof. I figured that there was a circuit designed to supply up to 20 amps, but wasn't being used.
To be safe I'd put a low amperage fuse (just higher then the hands free kits rating) in line with the constant power source it will protect your battery and vehicle if you do get a power feed back to the accessory enable. This should already be done in the hands free kit but unless you see an inline fuse holder you might want to add it
Last edited by mppkll; 03-15-2007 at 09:55 AM.
#103
Re: Nav System & Bluetooth
Would this ever be a desirable feature? Such as wanted to make / receive a phone call with the key out of the ignition? I'm not trying to wire mine, so I'm just asking out of curiosity.
-John
-John
As I mentioned, the real oddity is that apparently grounding the Mute input on the Nav radio not only enables the Phone audio inputs, but also will force the Nav radio 'on' even if the vehicle is 'off' (key removed from ignition, driver's door opened, etc). I never expected that to happen.
#104
Re: Nav System & Bluetooth
#105
Re: Nav System & Bluetooth
Hey folks, how about the '08? I thought I noticed the Bluetooth emblem on my phone come on one day, but I can't figure out anything about how it might work. Thanks for any info.
#106
Re: Nav System & Bluetooth
any new info about the 08?
I'm looking to buy one and I'm picking my options and can't believe there's no bluetooth option from the factory.
My wife's car came with it and I'm hooked. So even if I have to add something aftermarket I will...
I'm looking to buy one and I'm picking my options and can't believe there's no bluetooth option from the factory.
My wife's car came with it and I'm hooked. So even if I have to add something aftermarket I will...
#107
Re: Nav System & Bluetooth
That makes the FE/MM the only two new models, with this particular Nav system, that is not being offered the Sync. Hopefully, Ford will correct that, and offer it as an upgrade.
#108
Re: Nav System & Bluetooth
for those that missed it- I saw this discussing the NAV unit being the same as for Lincoln.
here:
https://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...reply&p=143411
here:
https://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...reply&p=143411
#109
Re: Nav System & Bluetooth - CK3000 EVO
Thanks to Mike for providing the pinout information for the stereo system. By using the information given above I was able to successfully install Parrot CK3000 Evolution instead of CK3100. Also the keypad of CK3000 EVO nicely fitted under the 4WD sign on the dashboard (see attached picture).
Here is the wiring information of my installation (refer to the original diagram at the beginning of this post for Ford / Visteon Escape Hybrid NAV radio pinouts):
There are two connectors attached to the CK3000 EVO Bluetooth Unit (see attached picture). The full harness that also included the mute circuitry was not needed as all required connections were directly on those 2 connectors.
White connector with 3 wires is for the power (those are same as CK3100 and all of them are used):
- Red: 12 Volt (connect to pin 1 of Power connector)
- Orange: 12V Ignition (connect to pin 3 of Power connector)
- Black: Ground (connect to pin 2 of Power connector - the original diagram was suggesting pin 6 for ground connection, but my car didn't have any wire there)
Black connector with 7 wires is for the audio and controls. The wires on one row are going to the keypad connector with very short wires (do not touch those), the wires on the other row are going to the mute circuitry within a jacketed cable, and there are 5 wires there (only 3 of them are used):
- White: Phone Audio - (connect to pin 9 of Accessory / NAV jack)
- Black: Ground (not used)
- Red: Phone Audio + (connect to pin 8 of Accessory / NAV jack)
- Blue: Mute (connect to pin 4 of Accessory / NAV jack)
- Yellow: 12V Ignition (not used)
Here is the wiring information of my installation (refer to the original diagram at the beginning of this post for Ford / Visteon Escape Hybrid NAV radio pinouts):
There are two connectors attached to the CK3000 EVO Bluetooth Unit (see attached picture). The full harness that also included the mute circuitry was not needed as all required connections were directly on those 2 connectors.
White connector with 3 wires is for the power (those are same as CK3100 and all of them are used):
- Red: 12 Volt (connect to pin 1 of Power connector)
- Orange: 12V Ignition (connect to pin 3 of Power connector)
- Black: Ground (connect to pin 2 of Power connector - the original diagram was suggesting pin 6 for ground connection, but my car didn't have any wire there)
Black connector with 7 wires is for the audio and controls. The wires on one row are going to the keypad connector with very short wires (do not touch those), the wires on the other row are going to the mute circuitry within a jacketed cable, and there are 5 wires there (only 3 of them are used):
- White: Phone Audio - (connect to pin 9 of Accessory / NAV jack)
- Black: Ground (not used)
- Red: Phone Audio + (connect to pin 8 of Accessory / NAV jack)
- Blue: Mute (connect to pin 4 of Accessory / NAV jack)
- Yellow: 12V Ignition (not used)
Last edited by akkok; 08-21-2014 at 03:57 PM.
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