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04-29-2008, 09:28 AM
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Lt. Green 06 FEH
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Re: Penalties for using accessories?
Well then 5-6mpg is more around a 14% hit, not 40. Even in the "red" max AC mode, I wouldn't imagine more than 15-20% at the most.
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04-29-2008, 10:02 AM
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Hybrid Technologist
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Real Name: John
Location: N.Colorado & S.Minnesota
Hybrids: 2005 Diet Ford Escape FWD, 2000 Honda Insight
Posts: 2,555
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Re: Penalties for using accessories?
Hey guys, don't argue, don't assume, and don't guess.
Go out and try it for yourself like I have, and like Ford has.
Drive in congested city traffic with lots of stop & go with Max. A/C on the whole time.
Then try it with it completely off the whole time.
A good driver will see a net of 40% lower MPG. It's a fact.
A not so good driver may see less of a drop, because poor habits are cutting into fuel economy already, so they have "less to lose" in the first place.
When I drive in the city on a "nice" day with A/C off, I'm often getting over 50 MPG.
This is due to lots of coasting with the engine off, and zero engine idle at stops. When Ford did their all NYC drive to see how far they could go on 1 tank ( over 600 miles ) they were getting 42 MPG in the city with A/C off.
With A/C on Max. driving the same roads on a mid-July day.... My MPG is about 30 MPG.
Right on what Ford says... about 40% drop in MPG with Max. A/C during city driving.
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04-29-2008, 10:16 AM
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Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Patrick
Location: Louisville, KY
Hybrids: '09 FEH Limited (2WD)
Posts: 78
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Re: Penalties for using accessories?
Quote:
Originally Posted by gpsman1
Hey guys, don't argue, don't assume, and don't guess.
Go out and try it for yourself like I have, and like Ford has.
Drive in congested city traffic with lots of stop & go with Max. A/C on the whole time.
Then try it with it completely off the whole time.
A good driver will see a net of 40% lower MPG. It's a fact.
A not so good driver may see less of a drop, because poor habits are cutting into fuel economy already, so they have "less to lose" in the first place.
When I drive in the city on a "nice" day with A/C off, I'm often getting over 50 MPG.
This is due to lots of coasting with the engine off, and zero engine idle at stops. When Ford did their all NYC drive to see how far they could go on 1 tank ( over 600 miles ) they were getting 42 MPG in the city with A/C off.
With A/C on Max. driving the same roads on a mid-July day.... My MPG is about 30 MPG.
Right on what Ford says... about 40% drop in MPG with Max. A/C during city driving.
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John,
Thanks for the feedback. That is really good info. By the way, why do you call your FEH a 'diet' FEH? Enquiring minds want to know.
Patrick
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04-29-2008, 10:30 AM
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Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Bill Kircher
Location: Southwestern Pa
Hybrids: 2005 Escape AWD
Posts: 902
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Re: Penalties for using accessories?
Diet FEH refers to the exterior color if I am not mistaken.
2005 AWD Escape Hybrid
Best Interstate tank trip MPG 39.02 (scangauge II) for 402 miles on I-70, 10.3 gallons used over mostly flat terrain.
Best Interstate tank trip E30 MPG 34.6 for 271 miles along I-80 in Indiana and Ohio.
Best multiple road tank trip E30 MPG 36.2 for 202 miles in Southwestern Pa.
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04-29-2008, 10:58 PM
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Hybrid Technologist
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Real Name: John
Location: N.Colorado & S.Minnesota
Hybrids: 2005 Diet Ford Escape FWD, 2000 Honda Insight
Posts: 2,555
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Re: Penalties for using accessories?
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Originally Posted by Green Lantern
John,
By the way, why do you call your FEH a 'diet' FEH? Enquiring minds want to know.
Patrick
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Because of great taste, and less filling!
( I don't know WHAT Billy is talking about. )
 -John
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04-30-2008, 02:33 AM
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Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Patrick
Location: Louisville, KY
Hybrids: '09 FEH Limited (2WD)
Posts: 78
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Re: Penalties for using accessories?
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Originally Posted by gpsman1
Because of great taste, and less filling!
( I don't know WHAT Billy is talking about. )
 -John
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LOL...but I thought that was Miller Lite 
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04-30-2008, 06:56 AM
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Lt. Green 06 FEH
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Posts: 54
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Re: Penalties for using accessories?
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Originally Posted by gpsman1
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With A/C on Max. driving the same roads on a mid-July day.... My MPG is about 30 MPG.
Right on what Ford says... about 40% drop in MPG with Max. A/C during city driving.
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Something doesn't compute here, are you saying that you normally get 50mpg when you dont run the AC? (ie. 50mpg - 40% (20mpg) = 30mpg?
I get around 35 avg regardless of the AC setting.... I would consider my driving fairly passive.
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