FWIW, despite 1st model year vehicles (of a brand new car or new generation) tending to be less reliable, the 1st year of Prius c made http://green.autoblog.com/2012/11/01...most-reliable/ and http://money.cnn.com/gallery/autos/2...reliable-cars/, despite CR not liking the car at all in their reviews.

 

Apparently even Honda agrees the PHEV isn't ready for prime time. http://driving.ca/honda/accord/auto-...k-in-progress/

 

I'm not getting the 45 mpg from my Accord Hybrid. Closer to 41.8 and that is with the majority city driving and babying the car. Far from their estimated 50 mpg number in the city.

 

Try being very light on your acceleration's especially if no cars behind you. Also, AC use will easily knock of 5MPG so try keeping the AC turned off while you do your MPG testing

 

Keep in mind that EPA estimates are not promises.

Please read links at http://priuschat.com/forums/other-ca...estimates.html to learn more about the EPA tests.

Hint: They're not conducted on real road, but rather a dyno. They follow a very specific test schedule and the shortest cycles that start from a cold engine (cold engine == poor mileage) are 31.2 minutes long. The rest start w/a warm engine. They also don't measure actual fuel use, but rather derive it from tailpipe emissions.

 

Gotcha,
So basically in real world driving conditions I'm not going to see that promised 50 mpg city. Even when driving slow etc. As for driving with the AC off during the test that is also misleading. I know it affects mpg but that should be included in the standard EPA testing because I don't know anyone that drives around with the AC off when it is 95 degree outside.

I have to say I am very disappointed. My 2002 Camry got 33 mpg combined with AC running non-stop and me driving pretty aggressively. Accord drives wonderfully but EPA was very misleading.

When I pull out slow without using the acceleration hard the display shows my MPG number to be around 10-20 until I get up to speed. Once at speed it will show 35ish until it switches into EV mode then maxes out the bar.

Is this typical of everyone else as well? Should I speed up more quickly so that I'm at the lower rate for a short period then it switch to EV mode and maintain a higher number?

 

Brandon, the Accord Hybrid weights almost 600 lbs more than 2002 Camry. It is probably much safer vehicle with better collision protection. Also, there is no way you ever got 33MPG in the city. The 2002 Camry is rated for 21MPG city and 24 highway (4 Cylinder).

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find....17760&id=17761

also, out of 72 vehicles with 1.2 Million miles logged on Fuelly.com, the average mileage is 24MPG for the 2002 Camry. I even filtered out the 6 cylinder and it was still 26MPG:

http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/camry

 

Also, the A/C will significantly reduce mileage -especially- in higher mileage vehicles because each additional MPG is much harder to achieve. My Civic hybrid gets almost 55MPG -without- AC, and drops to like 46MPG with AC. It takes a lot of energy to transfer heat! If I were you I would be delighted to get 40MPG in a 3600lb vehicle with A/C turned on. In addition, you don't have range limits like electric vehicles, you can drive 700 miles a pop!

 

Not sure about Fuelly because I just started using it to record my Hybrid's gas mileage.

As for the Camry. It was a 2002 Camry LE 4 cylinder. I averaged 33 mpg. Bought the car used in 2005 with 60k and it was sold/salvaged in 2010 with 245k miles on it. That was a great car and it did get that gas mileage. My daily commute was 60-70 miles total down the interstate. That was also with me driving with cruise control on 80 mph in a 70 mph zone. I will always know the mpg on that vehicle because it was right out of high school and I had to pay my own gas bill through college. Granted I took that car everywhere: WV, VA, PA, FL, NC, SC

I have no reason to lie to you bud. I already have the Honda Accord Hybrid it isn't like I'm promoting the Camry. I was going to buy another Camry and get the Hybrid until I compared the Hybrid EPA numbers on the stickers at 41mpg on the Camry and 47 combined on the Honda. I didn't select the Fusion Hybrid because many reviews came back saying the car got closer to 35-41 mpg instead of the sticker 47 mpg. I did my research or as much as I could. Seems there isn't much in the way of resources for the Honda Accord Hybrid 2014.

 

Actually I'm getting 41.8 mpg with the AC turned on. I believe you misunderstand. I have read many post of owners of this car that claim to be getting 50+ and I wanted to know how they were doing it. Driving style etc. I'm very pleased with the luxury of my car just not the performance based on what I expected. I do like the 650+ miles I'm getting on a gas tank though. AMEN to that one.