Is everyone experiencing these LOOOOONG load times for pages on the GH forums? I tried them in Firefox and IE and from two different locations with two different types of acces and have the same results. I think it might be the advertising slowing things down because it almost always says "ads.doubleclick.com" in the status bar at the bottom of the browser window. I think that the webmaster should take a look at this because it is sometimes to the point where I just give up and leave the site altogether. I think there is a way (in the coding) to instruct browsers to load certain content first without waiting for slower loading items but I don't recall.

-Tim

2006 Mercury Mariner Hybrid AWD
Black with Pebble interior
Premium Package with Nav & Moonroof



Current ODO: 26,152
Typical Drive: 20 min crosstown in heavy traffic (3.5mi there and back twice a day)


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That's 10,642 lbs less CO2 emitted

I haven't experienced this myself, but it's quite possible. I'll pass the word along to CarsDirect so they may resolve the issue if possible.

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Since I've tried it on 3 different computers on two different types of connections in two different locations, I'd say its not my PC.

I don't get errors....just real long load times for forum pages.

-Tim

2006 Mercury Mariner Hybrid AWD
Black with Pebble interior
Premium Package with Nav & Moonroof



Current ODO: 26,152
Typical Drive: 20 min crosstown in heavy traffic (3.5mi there and back twice a day)


532 Gallons of gas saved
That's 10,642 lbs less CO2 emitted

Start with a traceroute from your machine(s) to GreenHybrid.com to map out the hops. Often you'll find which hop(s) add delay times. Then do a traceroute to a 'fast' web site. You can then eliminate all shared hops.

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Have you tried turning off (unchecking) Show Signatures, Show Avatars, and Show Images ??

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Walt, it is not only within threads that I see the delays so signatures and avatars aren't the problem. Pinging GH gives me much slower responses than other sites do. I ran a couple of traceroutes and here are the results....don't know what I can do about it, but it seems pretty clear where the slowdowns are.

Tracing route to greenhybrid.com [207.212.172.168]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms c-68-84-220-189.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [XXXXXXXXXXX]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms ge-6-2-ur01.columbusblvd.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.213.169]
4 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms po-10-ur01.greenwayave.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.53]
5 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms po-20-ar01.wallingford.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.49]
6 9 ms 20 ms 10 ms po-90-ar01.audubon.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.25]
7 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms po-90-ar01.plainfield.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.1]
8 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms 68.86.90.37
9 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms te-3-1.car1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.71.172.109]
10 15 ms 13 ms 14 ms ae-12-51.car2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.21]
11 15 ms 13 ms 13 ms te-4-4.wch010.nycmny2.Level3.net [4.68.110.18]
12 15 ms 13 ms 14 ms 64.200.249.153
13 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms brvwil1wcx3-pos0-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.240.253]
14 66 ms 66 ms 67 ms dnvrco1wcx3-pos13-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.240.121]
15 66 ms 67 ms 69 ms dnvrco1wcx2-pos3-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.106.37]
16 95 ms 92 ms 93 ms anhmca1wcx3-pos12-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.240.249]
17 93 ms 95 ms 95 ms 64.200.140.154
18 93 ms 93 ms 95 ms lsanca1wch1-us-telepacific-8-11.wcg.net [64.200.200.62]
19 96 ms 95 ms 95 ms gi51.cr1.lsanca.telepacific.net [64.60.175.237]
20 96 ms 95 ms 95 ms fa00.br4.lsanca.telepacific.net [64.60.224.13]
21 83 ms 83 ms 85 ms 207.212.172.2
22 84 ms 86 ms 83 ms www.greenhybrid.com [207.212.172.168]

Trace complete.


Tracing route to escape-central.com [66.70.135.42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms c-68-84-220-189.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [XXXXXXXXXX]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms ge-6-2-ur01.columbusblvd.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.213.169]
4 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms po-10-ur01.greenwayave.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.53]
5 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms po-20-ar01.wallingford.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.49]
6 11 ms 10 ms 9 ms po-90-ar01.audubon.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.25]
7 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms po-90-ar01.plainfield.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.1]
8 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms 68.86.90.37
9 13 ms 13 ms 18 ms te-3-2.car1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.71.172.113]
10 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms ae-1-51.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.1]
11 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms so-0-1-0.mp1.Stamford1.Level3.net [64.159.0.85]
12 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms so-11-0.hsa2.Stamford1.Level3.net [4.68.124.102]
13 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms 4.79.128.14
14 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms escape-central.com [66.70.135.42]

Trace complete.


Tracing route to google.com [64.233.187.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms c-68-84-220-189.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [XXXXXXXXXX]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms ge-6-2-ur01.columbusblvd.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.213.169]
4 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms po-10-ur01.greenwayave.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.53]
5 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms po-20-ar01.wallingford.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.49]
6 11 ms 9 ms 9 ms po-90-ar01.audubon.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.25]
7 13 ms 14 ms 14 ms po-90-ar01.plainfield.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.1]
8 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms 68.86.90.37
9 13 ms 14 ms 14 ms te-9-4.car1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.71.172.121]
10 76 ms 16 ms 21 ms ae-1-51.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.1]
11 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms as-3-0.bbr1.Washington1.Level3.net [64.159.3.254]
12 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms ae-11-51.car1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.68.121.18]
13 18 ms 18 ms 19 ms GOOGLE-INC.car1.Level3.net [4.79.228.38]
14 33 ms 32 ms 33 ms 72.14.238.136
15 35 ms 35 ms 34 ms 72.14.236.15
16 35 ms 34 ms 37 ms 216.239.49.222
17 35 ms 32 ms 34 ms 64.233.187.99

Trace complete.

-Tim

2006 Mercury Mariner Hybrid AWD
Black with Pebble interior
Premium Package with Nav & Moonroof



Current ODO: 26,152
Typical Drive: 20 min crosstown in heavy traffic (3.5mi there and back twice a day)


532 Gallons of gas saved
That's 10,642 lbs less CO2 emitted

I think you ought to check that coding, or maybe try running the site without the ads briefly to see if that helps. They are definitely slowing the loading of pages.

In addition, I noticed in the IE status bar that while the ads are loading, the message flashes a couple of times that says "a bad URL ads.doubleclick.net" before displaying "waiting for ads.doubleclick.net".

Also, in IE it is very clear that the content is NOT loading first as the top of the pages load....then there is a delay as the banner ad loads. Again, I am seeing the words "waiting for ads.doublick.net etc appear in the status bar at the bottom of the browser before the main content loads, then the sidebar ad (again with the "waiting" message in the status bar), then the bottom of the pages load.

I started using IE for this site as it has gotten unbearable in Firefox. I find the site freezing up my browser, making me unable to access other tabs that are open, unable to right click on anything to open a menu, and often freezing the whole browser to the point where I have to go into task manager and end the task.

-Tim

2006 Mercury Mariner Hybrid AWD
Black with Pebble interior
Premium Package with Nav & Moonroof



Current ODO: 26,152
Typical Drive: 20 min crosstown in heavy traffic (3.5mi there and back twice a day)


532 Gallons of gas saved
That's 10,642 lbs less CO2 emitted

I only have problems loading this site up in the linux version of Firefox. Windows is fine. I thinks my problem is Flash, the whole browser feels like molasses and I have to switch to a different app to get the image to refresh.