John,
I have the same problem in Firefox only with Windows. I wonder if it is something to do with the Flash ads as well.

-Tim

2006 Mercury Mariner Hybrid AWD
Black with Pebble interior
Premium Package with Nav & Moonroof



Current ODO: 26,152
Typical Drive: 20 min crosstown in heavy traffic (3.5mi there and back twice a day)


532 Gallons of gas saved
That's 10,642 lbs less CO2 emitted

I just installed the latest linux flash 9 release (no longer beta) and this site works great now. Tim, might want to try and see if your version of flash is old and if so get the latest version.

For what it is worth I think that the site is slooooooow as well. IE seems to work better than Firefox. Sometimes it looks like the whole page has loaded but something is getting hung up and will not let you click on anything or if it does it acts really slow. It slows down the entire computer to the point of needing a reboot sometimes. Very annoying.

Exactly my problem. I find it especially bad when I try to reply to a post in Firefox. The last 3 times I tried it, the entire browser froze up and I had to use task manager to close it down. I now use IE only for GreenHybrid and even in IE it is very slow. I wish they'd turn off the ads for a little while to see if that is the problem....

-Tim

2006 Mercury Mariner Hybrid AWD
Black with Pebble interior
Premium Package with Nav & Moonroof



Current ODO: 26,152
Typical Drive: 20 min crosstown in heavy traffic (3.5mi there and back twice a day)


532 Gallons of gas saved
That's 10,642 lbs less CO2 emitted

Ditto here on the flash ads. I've noticed it hangs more than my browser, but really clobbers my system performance as well. Flash upgrade, here I come.

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Fantastic News!!

I've fixed the problem on my home system. The problem is DEFINITELY the Flash adds. I found a wonderful program called Flashblock that has fixed the slooooooow load times. With Flashblock installed you get an "f" instead of the Flash animation as shown in this picture on the top of the page with the red arrow. If you want to see the Flash animation you just hover over the "f" and the "f" turns into a play arrow as shown on the right side of this picture:







See: http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful_stuff/disable_flash.asp
and: http://flashblock.mozdev.org/

A) GH is now completely useless in Firefox.
B) I installed FlashBlocker and it seems to work on other sites, but the ads here on GH are still showing up....

(posted using IE7)

-Tim

2006 Mercury Mariner Hybrid AWD
Black with Pebble interior
Premium Package with Nav & Moonroof



Current ODO: 26,152
Typical Drive: 20 min crosstown in heavy traffic (3.5mi there and back twice a day)


532 Gallons of gas saved
That's 10,642 lbs less CO2 emitted

Hi,

This is a hard problem because the performance problem is not universal. I run both Macs and PCs with Firefox and IE and have no performance problems. This simply means whatever the problem is, I can't reproduce it.

For a good friends who manage GreenHybrid.com, I would like to suggest this may be a problem that you are in a unique position to resolve. The approach I would use is to:

1) use tcpdump to record a set of network data to and from GH and the flash server
2) use tcptrace to analyze the data to find flash sessions that appear to have performance problems (aka., retransmissions, slow ACK)
3) look for patterns that might relate to the problem sites

Because the performance problem is not universal, I still suspect the network, in part because I am a network engineer and that is my 'meal ticket.' But when I looked at the posted traceroutes, the routes were sufficiently different to indicate a rich 'ambiguity group.'

Feel free to PM me about our approaches to network problem diagnosis.

Bob Wilson

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I had the same problem, 100% CPU load by flash.
Installed Flashblock, then the problem was gone.
My enviroment is Mozilla 1.7.8 and MS Windows 2000 on Pen-III 800MHz.

Ken@Japan