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07-22-2007, 08:55 PM
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Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: John
Location: Colorado
Hybrids: 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid, 2007 Toyota Highlander Hybrid
Posts: 709
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Re: Lies, **** Lies, and Statistics
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Originally Posted by Jason
Sometimes people put in erroneous data to mess with the database. So, such a check wouldn't really be fullproof.
If you could please locate by providing the URL of these outliers as you find them, we can do our best to take care of them.  Thanks.
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Links were provided just as you requested. However, after more than two weeks, the obvious errors are still there. Is there nobody that is able and/or willing to fix these?
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07-23-2007, 10:05 PM
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GreenHybrid Founder
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Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
Hybrids: 2004 Toyota Prius
Posts: 4,593
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Re: Lies, **** Lies, and Statistics
I have contacted Internet Brands regarding this, and you are welcome to do so yourself as well.
http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/showgroups.php
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07-27-2007, 05:34 PM
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Hybrid & Ethanol Expert
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Real Name: John
Location: N.Colorado & S.Minnesota
Hybrids: 2005 Ford Escape FWD, 2000 Honda Insight
Posts: 2,612
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Re: Lies, **** Lies, and Statistics
Also, for nearly 1 year now we have been asking for a separate database for the 2008--> and newer Ford Escape Hybrid. It is new enough, and different enough to deserve it's own category. Ford says it is 2-3 MPG better than the 2005-2007's. In the real world, it looks like it is about 5 MPG better than previous model years. I think this ( and every Ford owner will agree ) deserves a separation like the Prius I / Prius II.
Thank You!!!!
Ford / Mercury / Mazda (soon) can be together.
Just pre-2008 and post-2008 need to be separate.
Thanks!
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08-03-2007, 05:01 AM
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HypoFueler
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Location: Ohio
Hybrids: 2007 HCHII
Posts: 405
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Re: Lies, **** Lies, and Statistics
These outlier entries probably do affect: mean and standard deviation and standard error
These entries really dont affect: median, middle 50%
the charts show the median, middle 50% so they are unaffected.
Median mpg (US) Mean mpg (US) Middle 50% mpg (US) Standard Deviation Standard Error Cars
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08-07-2007, 06:22 PM
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Re: Lies, **** Lies, and Statistics
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Originally Posted by bluecivichybrid
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Done!
I have a stickied thread in this forum about these issues, so please feel free to post anything else you find there.
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08-08-2007, 12:02 AM
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Hybrid & Ethanol Expert
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Real Name: John
Location: N.Colorado & S.Minnesota
Hybrids: 2005 Ford Escape FWD, 2000 Honda Insight
Posts: 2,612
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Re: Lies, **** Lies, and Statistics
What about this person:
CONTACT:
Wendy Barbour
CarsDirect
310-280-4494
wendy.barbour @ carsdirect.com
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08-08-2007, 03:39 AM
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Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Myles
Location: Northern California
Hybrids: 2004 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT
Posts: 382
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Re: Lies, **** Lies, and Statistics
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Originally Posted by Cars2007
Done!
I have a stickied thread in this forum about these issues, so please feel free to post anything else you find there.
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Thanks for the fix! Much appreciated.
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08-08-2007, 10:55 AM
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Re: Lies, **** Lies, and Statistics
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Originally Posted by gpsman1
What about this person:
CONTACT:
Wendy Barbour
CarsDirect
310-280-4494
wendy.barbour @ carsdirect.com
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It's better if you report issues in my stickied thread, since I get emailed when it's updated and I'm the one who can fix things. If anything, other CarsDirect staff members would wind up forwarding issues to me anyway, so this is faster.
I have other duties, so I won't always be able to fix things right away, but I will get to them as time allows.
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