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Old 01-31-2008, 07:05 PM
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by Bill Gray

Ford Escape Hybrid Taxi on the streets of New York.
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DEARBORN, Jan. 29, 2008 -- Ford Escape Hybrid taxis have been doing service on the streets of San Francisco and New York since 2005, undergoing what is arguably the most grueling trial for a passenger vehicle.
We're talking cabbies going 24/7 through potholes galore, fast starts, slammed brakes, outrageous hills and hours of idling.
Marty Smith in San Francisco and New York's Osman Chowdhury drive their Ford Escape Hybrid taxis on opposite coasts, but they share similar experiences and successes after more than two years and 100,000 miles each on some of the most challenging roads in the United States.
And unlike other cabs, which are often specifically repurposed for taxi duty, the Escape Hybrids were sent directly from the factory floor.
Doubters had their questions: Would the hybrids' new nickel-metal hydride batteries survive their 100,000-mile 8-year (150,000 / 10yr in CA) warranty period with the taxis racking up that many miles in just 14 months? Would the vehicles really save all that much gas?
Now Ford has the answer: The Ford Escape Hybrids aren't just surviving, they're thriving. The vehicles are winning over cabbies and fleet owners, saving them thousands of dollars and making enthusiasts out of America's most jaded drivers.
After being driven a combined 3.3 million miles, the first 33 hybrid cabs put into duty -- 18 in New York and 15 in San Francisco -- are still on the road with their original nickel-metal hydride batteries intact. Just as significantly, the cabs are also saving drivers thousands of dollars a year in gas costs.
Based on this success, even more hybrid taxis have been put to work. In New York, 550 hybrid taxis are now on duty, including 384 Escapes; in San Francisco, the fleet of 40 hybrid cabs is dominated by 30 Escapes.
There are two big reasons: the hybrids are holding their own under the extreme conditions and they are saving the average driver around U.S. $5,000 a year in gas expenses. Drivers are generally responsible for buying gas, according to a New York Taxi & Limousine Commission/SmartTransportation.org study.
Green transportation advocate Jack Hidary said, "The Escape Hybrid is proving to be reliable."
One of those Ford problem solvers is Damien Tedone, section supervisor, HEV Controls Applications.
"We're pleased," he says, "especially with the battery life -- regular Escape Hybrid owners should be, too."
Their success is not only good news for hybrids, but a testament to the durability of the Escape itself.
"If you think about it, taxi drivers put more stop-and-go into one vehicle in a day than regular customers will ever do," says Gil Portalatin, Ford manager, Hybrid Applications. "And what vehicle has its doors opened and shut -- or flung open and slammed shut -- more than a taxi?"
But while cabbies enjoy the durability and the gas savings, city fathers and mothers say the environmental perks are the biggest benefits of the hybrid cabs.
In fact, both mayors -- Michael Bloomberg in New York and Gavin Newsome in San Francisco -- are committed to greening taxi fleets in their cities.
"New York cabs spend a lot of time standing still with the motors running, and an idling gasoline-driven car emits 20 times more pollution than when it's going 30 miles an hour," Bloomberg told NBC's Today Show. "The hybrid, of course, turns off the gas during idling."
An all-hybrid taxi fleet would produce emissions savings equivalent to taking 25,000 cars off the road, according to SmartTransportation.org.
Meanwhile, a San Francisco Taxi Commission subcommittee is working on a plan to convert cabs to hybrid or natural gas power.
"We're going to create a clean-taxi future," promises Heidi Machen, executive director, San Francisco Taxi Commission. "We're just working out details, such as a way fleet operators, as well as the drivers, can take advantage of the gas savings."
Escape Hybrid taxis also debuted in Austin, Texas, in April and in Chicago in June. Other big cab cities, such as Los Angeles and Washington, D.C., may be on the hybrid taxi bandwagon soon.
Ultimately, wherever people hail hybrid taxis, they're also hailing their praises.
 
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:29 PM
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Excellent!

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Old 02-02-2008, 08:05 PM
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Thanks for that, gpsman1. Very favorable reports thus far from the taxi business community. It seems they are convinced! From saving REAL money they can see staying in their pockets, to lowering emissions, to supporting Detroit (!) - everyone is on board.

If only the general population were as enlightened.
 
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I am not convinced - my 2006 Escape Hybrid experienced a "catastrophic engine failure" at 65,000 miles. I had to replace the engine - a $6,500 repair bill - and Ford will not assist with the repair cost.

The battery may last, but the engine does not.
 
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:49 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that. I guess time will tell, or another report, whether most taxi drivers are experiencing this engine failure as well.
 
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dlucarelli
I am not convinced - my 2006 Escape Hybrid experienced a "catastrophic engine failure" at 65,000 miles. I had to replace the engine - a $6,500 repair bill - and Ford will not assist with the repair cost.
I'm really sorry this happened to you. Thank you for your post. IMHO it is always good to hear all sides of an issue and let people make up their own mind. People need to know that not everyone has the kind of luck that the cabbies have had.

Originally Posted by dlucarelli
The battery may last, but the engine does not.
While I'm sorry that you got unlucky, this statement is demonstrably false, on average. Your sample size is one, and while that one sample is very important to you (and it totally sucks that you got unlucky), a single failure does little to skew the average. Your situation seems to the be exception, not the rule.

If I'm wrong and FEH total engine failures are common feel free to post links or other proof.

Once again, I'm really sorry you got unlucky, truly. I hope Ford helps you out in some way.
 
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Old 09-01-2009, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dlucarelli
I am not convinced - my 2006 Escape Hybrid experienced a "catastrophic engine failure" at 65,000 miles. I had to replace the engine - a $6,500 repair bill - and Ford will not assist with the repair cost.

The battery may last, but the engine does not.

I understand your frustration at your engine failure, but you've got a thread dedicated to your issue, there's no need to zombiefy old threads to continue complaining.

The facts are you've had something terrible happen. There isn't even conclusive evidence that what happened is Fords fault and not Jiffy Lubes. There are members here who have 3 times as many miles as you do without problem and there are many taxis who have passed the 200K miles in San Fran and NY without any problems.
 
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Old 09-02-2009, 02:50 PM
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I'm sure some of you have seen this, but just incase you didn't:

San Francisco's first 15 hybrid taxis, all Ford Escapes, have made it to about the 300,000-mile mark -- nearing the city's official taxi retirement age -- and are being taken off the road. Their longevity shows that hybrid technology is more durable than previously imagined; they also have saved drivers about $9,000 a year, depending on gas prices and number of shifts driven.
 
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