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Old 08-24-2005, 11:56 AM
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I just ran across this article. I'd like to know what customer came up with those numbers. I can't believe that. Only time I got that bad mileage I was doing 85+ miles per hour for a few hundred miles. -AL




Demand rises for more fuel-efficient vehicles

Article by:

Tim Scordato - Staff Reporter tscordato@northernstar.info



With oil prices reaching $67 a barrel after jumping $10 a barrel in the past three weeks, fuel-efficient cars such as the Honda Civic and Honda Accord are selling well in the DeKalb area.

Customers are pleased with the high fuel mileage, said car dealer Brian Bemis.
Dealerships are finding it hard to keep these cars in stock due to high demand.
The 2005 Honda Civic LX delivers 32-38 miles per gallon , and the Accord LX delivers 26-34 mpg.

According to a recent online poll conducted by Kelley Blue Book, the Civic is a top choice for young drivers and parents of young drivers because of its efficiency, safety ratings and character.

Hybrid technology is also in high demand, but a CNN report says customers are not getting the mileage they expected. The report stated the 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid rated 47-48 miles per gallon, but customer complaints said it yielded only 31.4

According to the Environmental Protection Agency Web site, the fuel-efficiency test is designed to measure wastes emitted from the consuming fuel, not the actual amount of fuel being consumed.

Used-car dealers expressed concern with large dealership discounts such as the recent employee discounts that Chrysler and Ford have adapted.

Chuck Criswell, owner of Chuck’s Used Auto Center in Sycamore, relies on his reputation to compete with the major conglomerates.

He said he has been in the car-sales business for 40 years and his customers can relate with his down-to-earth service and expertise.

As far as fuel efficiency at used-car lots, Criswell said his big buy is the Volkswagen diesel, which receives up to 50 mpg. Customers who are attached to their current car are buying tune-ups, which can increase fuel savings by as much as 10 percent.


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Old 08-24-2005, 12:20 PM
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But you don't understand! Our enlightened population demands:
  • a 50mpg+ car that can be driven NASCAR style
  • get a model figure eating fast food
  • pay less taxes, get more public works projects....

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Old 08-24-2005, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: Customer complaints say HCH gets 31.4 mpg?

Yet the regular civic LX gets better mileage and has a bigger engine. Someones numbers aren't adding up.

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Well duh! The only people who would write complaints would be the people in the worst 10-20% of fuel economy! The other people would never even have a reason to write a complaint in the first place. No surprises here, that's something that falls under the category of "lies, ****ed lies, and statistics."

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A couple of years ago, someone from LA joined IC ranting about her Insight getting only 41mpg - you have to work hard to get it that low! She was trying to recruit people to help launch a class-action lawsuit. Showed total disinterest when members offered help on getting her Insight to a good dealship....

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Some people are just born complainers who want to believe everybody's out to get them, and they have to fight and sue to get even or something.

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and dont forget, the world owes them a living too!

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Old 08-25-2005, 05:36 AM
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Demand rises for more fuel-efficient vehicles

Article by:

Tim Scordato - Staff Reporter tscordato@northernstar.info



.....According to the Environmental Protection Agency Web site, the fuel-efficiency test is designed to measure wastes emitted from the consuming fuel, not the actual amount of fuel being consumed.


This is such a load of crap...how can a fuel efficiency test which has an indicator of MPG, NOT measure the actual amount of fuel being consumed!!!???
I get so tired of reading such biased BS...I put gas in tank and drive, count number of miles, divide by number of gallons = mpg. I am on tank #3 and it looks like it might be a first 50+mpg. I do not require any validation for my decision to trade-in the Land Rover for the HCH. I tell people I get 50 mpg with my GREENHYBRID.COM bumper sticker and laugh all the way to the tank.

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This is such a load of crap...how can a fuel efficiency test which has an indicator of MPG, NOT measure the actual amount of fuel being consumed!!!???
I get so tired of reading such biased BS...I put gas in tank and drive, count number of miles, divide by number of gallons = mpg.
Actually it's true. They calculate the amount of carbon in the gasoline, then measure the amount of carbon that comes from the exhaust pipe and from that calculate how much fuel it's burning. It's more accurate than trying to measure the amount of fuel burned by filling the tank.

What's BS is the fact that they think it's somehow skewing the results of hybrids in some way. Poor research.
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Some people are just born complainers who want to believe everybody's out to get them, and they have to fight and sue to get even or something.
Had a work buddy with that mindset. Repeatly I warned him to be quiet and do your job, but he ignored it and suffered the consequences....too many "victims" out there

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