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Old 07-19-2005, 08:44 AM
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Default Ex-Chrysler Boss Iacocca Questions GM's judgement

....over developing the Hummer over hybrids. I knew there was a reason I liked him....

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Old 07-19-2005, 09:05 AM
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his latest success .. the "critically acclaimed 300"

Ughh

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The 300, especially in V6 form wagon form, is more efficient and effective than most SUV's. The V8 employs cylinder shutdown so it can run as a 4-cylinder when full power is not needed. The 300 is a good car, and a great way to transition away to the larger, less aerodynamically efficient SUV's that are so popular these days.

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Unfortunately what it's more likely doing is hooking car buyers on the "bigger is better" deal, and the next vehicle they want will be even larger.
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EPA: 17 city, 21 highway for the V8 with the fancy cylinder deactivation.
The V6 is better -- it reaches CAFE. Barely.
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The 300, especially in V6 form wagon form, is more efficient and effective than most SUV's. The V8 employs cylinder shutdown so it can run as a 4-cylinder when full power is not needed. The 300 is a good car, and a great way to transition away to the larger, less aerodynamically efficient SUV's that are so popular these days.

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Compared to a V8 SUV of similar interior volume, say, Chrysler Group's Jeep Grand Cherokee which is rated at 17/22 for the 6 cylinder and 15/20 for the 4.7l V8 and 14/19 for the 5.7l V8, the 300 looks pretty good. If you look at the 300C wagon's ads, it's pretty clear they are demonstrating it as an SUV alternative.

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What I dislike about the latest 300 and similar cars is they have that "platform shoe" look - i.e. a car that looks like an SUV. It may be the lesser of evils, but is the oversized wheels, higher body, and blunt grill necessary?

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Old 07-19-2005, 11:17 PM
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AZCivic, I suggest comparing the 300 to a Hummer. Then it should really look like a step up.

BTW, anybody know why the cylinder deactivation does not give better results ?

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