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03-26-2005, 01:03 PM
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GreenHybrid Founder
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Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
Hybrids: 2004 Toyota Prius
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Flaw drains gas from hybrid vehicles
You know what we need? An "if you don't know what you're talking about, don't talk" GreenHybrid mob group. When we find journalists who are blatantly ignorant, we'll send them 500 emails letting them know. Mr. Phelan, your little "experiment" proves nothing.
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There's a loophole in how most hybrid gasoline-electric vehicles work, and countless gallons of gasoline are draining out of them.
Running the front defroster increases their fuel consumption drastically, as I discovered while driving three of them during Detroit's typically cold winter. Setting the air-conditioning on maximum cool has the same effect, so the problem is not limited to Northern regions.
The hybrids fell as much as 40 percent below the EPA mileage figures for combined city and highway driving during my recent test, which covered a mix of Detroit-area roads.
All three vehicles I drove probably got somewhat better fuel economy in my test than if I'd been driving conventional models, but this is just the latest example of hybrids falling short of the hype that surrounds them.
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- http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...26hybrids.html
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03-26-2005, 03:32 PM
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Location: Manassas,VA
Hybrids: 2005 Toyota Prius
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The same is true with 99% of the conventional cars that I or my husband has driven so why are they singling out hybrids? Idiots!
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03-26-2005, 03:50 PM
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Plodding along
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Real Name: Tom Baleno
Location: Chicago, IL
Hybrids: 2003 - Honda Civic Hybrid CVT
Posts: 2,128
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Hybrids are magic cars. They all get EPA numbers and you can drive them up the mountain in a snow storm with no ill effects on milage.
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My hydroponics experiment
You ever notice how hard it is to lip read cartoon characters?
"Crazy is what the sane call Delta Flyer"
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03-26-2005, 04:10 PM
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GreenHybrid Founder
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Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
Hybrids: 2004 Toyota Prius
Posts: 4,487
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 haha.
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03-26-2005, 05:32 PM
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Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Wayne Gerdes
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 2,567
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Hi Jason:
___Let me at him, let me at him!
___If this guy even had a slight clue as to what he was speaking of, he would know better and provide a service to his readers about automobiles in general instead of a disservice about hybrids in particular. What a knuckle head. Maybe Lars-ss and his HCH needs to take this guy out back for a good tongue lashing about A/C use in his Hybrid while living in AZ.? Maybe we could let Peggy have a piece of him too!
___Better yet, let’s see if this guy will post his own tank over tank data here in the RHMDB in whatever he drives. We could all have a good laugh afterwards
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___ Waynegerdes@earthlink.net
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03-26-2005, 05:48 PM
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Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Wayne Gerdes
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 2,567
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Hi All:
___Aw darn. This guy is from the Detroit area and writes for the Detroit Free Press. I cannot wait to speak with him on Monday myself
Contact MARK PHELAN at 313-222-6731 or phelan@freepress.com
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___ Waynegerdes@earthlink.net
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03-26-2005, 06:10 PM
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GreenHybrid Founder
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Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
Hybrids: 2004 Toyota Prius
Posts: 4,487
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Wayne, are you from Detroit?
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03-26-2005, 06:21 PM
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Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Wayne Gerdes
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 2,567
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Hi Jason:
___No, just north of Chicago but I think I will give him a phone call on Monday …
___I am trying to type posts and watch the Illini come back to tie it up in the Illinois – Arizona game. ****, what a game!!! Tied at 80 a piece at the buzzer!!!
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___ Waynegerdes@earthlink.net
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03-26-2005, 06:22 PM
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GreenHybrid Founder
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Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
Hybrids: 2004 Toyota Prius
Posts: 4,487
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We should have the mileage graphs back working by then, haha. You can make sure he writes a retraction story 
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03-26-2005, 06:51 PM
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Active Enthusiast
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Location: Manassas,VA
Hybrids: 2005 Toyota Prius
Posts: 111
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Originally Posted by xcel
Hi Jason:
___Let me at him, let me at him!
___If this guy even had a slight clue as to what he was speaking of, he would know better and provide a service to his readers about automobiles in general instead of a disservice about hybrids in particular. What a knuckle head. Maybe Lars-ss and his HCH needs to take this guy out back for a good tongue lashing about A/C use in his Hybrid while living in AZ.? Maybe we could let Peggy have a piece of him too!
___Better yet, let’s see if this guy will post his own tank over tank data here in the RHMDB in whatever he drives. We could all have a good laugh afterwards
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___ Waynegerdes@earthlink.net
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Lemme at him! Lemme at him! I'm little but I'm mean!! GRRRR!
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