this is from the work of GPSman1:

This reveals an increase in horsepower with ethanol.


Cost of mid-grade (not E10) ethanol blends is cheaper


There is a sweet spot with mid-grade ethanol blends in regards to mileage and cost.

2005 AWD Escape Hybrid
Best Interstate tank trip MPG 39.02 (scangauge II) for 402 miles on I-70, 10.3 gallons used over mostly flat terrain. Aug. 2007

Best Interstate tank trip E30 MPG 34.6 for 271 miles along I-80 in Indiana and Ohio. May 2008

Best multiple road tank trip E30 MPG 36.2 for 202 miles in Southwestern Pa. July 2008.

Other Honda vehicles were not designed or tested with E10 and therefore the long-term effects are not proven.
Ethanol contains less energy value than petrol. In theory, some loss of power and fuel economy (possibly 2-3%) may occur when using E10.
For further information, please refer to your vehicle owner's manual.

http://www.honda.com.au/wps/wcm/conn...hanol+homepage

Ethanol: The price of E85, an 85% blend of corn-derived ethanol available to some vehicles, rose to $3.052 a gallon on average from $3.044, AAA reported.
Ethanol burns cleaner than gasoline but has a lower energy content and burns less efficiently in flex fuel vehicles. According to AAA's estimates, a vehicle that burns E85 would pay $4.016 a gallon to get the same mileage as gas.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/17/news...ion=2008081708

More competition is a very good thing hopefully the new Honda's will be big sellers.

http://test5477.blogspot.com

Ethanol uses far less energy than it produces--
http://www.usatoday.com/educate/lockheed/Ethanol.pdf
remember this does not include the energy spent by the military to ensure oil gets out of the Mid-East.

E30 provides better mileage and less emission than straight 87 octane--
http://www.ecofriendlydriver.com/e20...wer-emissions/

Guess who got better mileage today with E30 than straight 87 octane? Yes, 83 cents a gallon less than 87 octane.

After 202 miles of driving on the interstate, 2 lane state and county highways, rural backroads, jeep trail on a nearly 3000 foot mountain --because I needed to collect information for the state park system in regards to nordic skiing--I recorded a 36.2 mpg figure.

this is better than the mpg figure I obtained prior to filling my tank with E85

Something to learn almost everyday.
I did drive 34 miles prior to adding E85 to my tank.

2005 AWD Escape Hybrid
Best Interstate tank trip MPG 39.02 (scangauge II) for 402 miles on I-70, 10.3 gallons used over mostly flat terrain. Aug. 2007

Best Interstate tank trip E30 MPG 34.6 for 271 miles along I-80 in Indiana and Ohio. May 2008

Best multiple road tank trip E30 MPG 36.2 for 202 miles in Southwestern Pa. July 2008.

well thats really good you are getting great milage with using E, you are also doing good for the environment, however i am still not convinced as here in Australia E10 petrol is only 5cents/litre cheaper and i do not think the savings justify a poorer fuel economy for my civic.

Can someone please split the ethanol topic that is hijacking this thread? As if there aren't already a billion discussions on the fuel already...

Semi related (?) will the 'new" Honda hybrid be flex - fuel (E85)

1981 Raleigh for errands & fun
1997 Trek 2300 for real fun !
2000 Civic hatchback
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...6327466c8c&z=2 (transportation @ google maps)

Check this out! Official press release from Honda today, with a couple teaser pictures (click the link below):

http://www.hondanews.com/categories/1097/releases/4722