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10-27-2006, 04:15 AM
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Lithium-ion battery: 40 year life and 15,000 deep cycles
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/...07&newsLang=en
This was tested with 6 minute full charge / discharge cycles.
Phosphate based too, so no fire/explosion worries.
Goodbye gasoline! 
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10-27-2006, 04:48 AM
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Engineering first
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Re: Lithium-ion battery: 40 year life and 15,000 deep cycles
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Originally Posted by clett
. . . This was tested with 6 minute full charge / discharge cycles. Phosphate based too, so no fire/explosion worries.
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At "10C" sounded pretty good too. Looking forward to getting engineering samples someday.
Bob Wilson
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10-27-2006, 06:43 AM
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Re: Lithium-ion battery: 40 year life and 15,000 deep cycles
"...Looking forward to getting engineering samples someday."
You mean like about 6 kwh of engineering samples?
DAS
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10-27-2006, 12:24 PM
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Re: Lithium-ion battery: 40 year life and 15,000 deep cycles
Interesting indeed. Phoenix Motorcars has placed an initial order of $750,000 for Altair Nanotechnologies new fast charge (6 minutes) lithium batteries.
The current production plan is for 10 vehicles by the end of 2006 (in process), 500 vehicles in 2007, 5,000 in 2008, 20,000 in 2009, 50,000 in 2010 and 100,000 in 2011. Initial pricing is in the low to mid $40K range.
This just may be the breakthrough that renders Chevron/Cobasys NiMH patent issue a moot point. Chevron has been been suing every manufacturer of large capacity (>10 Amp hour) NiMH battery cells, thus removing them from the market.
Remember the Toyota EV RAV4 and the Ford EV Ranger? They both used 95 Amp hour NiMH batteries. Looks like Altair just might have the 'magic bullet' that EV makers need for decient range vehicles! 
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10-27-2006, 02:36 PM
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Re: Lithium-ion battery: 40 year life and 15,000 deep cycles
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Originally Posted by nash
This just may be the breakthrough that renders Chevron/Cobasys NiMH patent issue a moot point. Chevron has been been suing every manufacturer of large capacity (>10 Amp hour) NiMH battery cells, thus removing them from the market.
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This is great, but true only with a caveat that they (Nanotechnologies) are not too guarded and open their sales to the rest of the industry. Unlike the oil company, they should have nothing to lose, and everything to gain with this technology.
Hope Pheonix Motorcars stick with their production plans...my next car was going to be PHEV, but if they got the decent SUV/SUT that's <$40k in a few years...exciting news indeed!
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10-27-2006, 06:01 PM
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Re: Lithium-ion battery: 40 year life and 15,000 deep cycles
I bought stock 
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10-27-2006, 06:11 PM
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Re: Lithium-ion battery: 40 year life and 15,000 deep cycles
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Originally Posted by jginaz
I bought stock 
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 ALTI, right?
I was thinking that too, and their current price is quite reasonable too! Unfortunately, I have no disposable income for that
Wouldnt it be interesting if their stock price tracks the number of "views" on this thread? 
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