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02-21-2008, 06:08 AM
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Real Name: MSantos
Location: Winnipeg, MB
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Re: Toyota: "no way" we can sell more Priuses than 2007
Whew... That's much better !!!!
Cheers;
MSantos
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02-21-2008, 09:56 AM
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Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
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Location: Canada
Hybrids: 2005 Toyota Prius Premium Package
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Re: Toyota: "no way" we can sell more Priuses than 2007
Good catch Bob!
Mods: EV mod, VVT-i emblem, sport pedals, OEM cargo mat, JDM Prius interior footwell lighting, Sylvania Silverstars 9003ST, DICE iPod kit, OEM all-weather mats, TomTom ONE v2, LED licence plate lights.
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02-21-2008, 10:31 AM
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Real Name: Fred
Location: SE PA
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Re: Toyota: "no way" we can sell more Priuses than 2007
Thanks for the clarification, bw.
The original post was disturbing. I'm aware that there are issues with large scale mass production of nickel metal hydride batteries (tens of millions of units). But if Toyota could not even consistently produce 200,000 battery units per year, we would be in far worse shape (in dealing with the energy challenge) than even I imagined.
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02-21-2008, 01:18 PM
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Engineering first
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Real Name: Bob
Location: Huntsville, AL
Hybrids: Prius Classic 03
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Re: Toyota: "no way" we can sell more Priuses than 2007
The title to this thread repeats the misleading, topic sentence of the original article:
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Originally Posted by wrong_title
Re: Toyota: "no way" we can sell more Priuses than 2007
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Perhaps there is someway we can get a better thread title: - 2007 saw record Prius sales
- Competition will moderate Prius sales increases in 2008
- Exploding Prius sales in 2007 stands as a record increase
- Exceptional 2007 Prius sales growth will be hard to match
Thoughts? Suggestions?
Bob Wilson
ps. I checked back at the autobloggreen site and the original author doesn't seem interested in a correction. Oh well, it doesn't really matter since in 12 months we'll have the 2008 sales figures and her article will have faded into obscurity.
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02-21-2008, 03:10 PM
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Energy Independence
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Real Name: Steve
Location: Richardson, TX
Hybrids: '06 Civic Hybrid Magnetic Pearl w/Navi (as of July 1, 2006)
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Re: Toyota: "no way" we can sell more Priuses than 2007
Thanks, Bob, for your tenacity!
I like title #4. It expresses the probable intent of this thread.
Steve
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02-21-2008, 08:18 PM
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Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
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Location: Canada
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Re: Toyota: "no way" we can sell more Priuses than 2007
I agree with gumby. Suggestion #4 seems to be the most fitting/appropriate.
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02-22-2008, 05:54 AM
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Big Hybrid Fan
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Real Name: It's a bit complicated :)
Location: Baltimore
Hybrids: Ashen's 2003 HCH
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Re: Toyota: "no way" we can sell more Priuses than 2007
One might think that a slowing USA economy might also make it difficult for Toyota to exceed in 2008 what it accomplished in 2007.
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02-22-2008, 07:34 AM
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Hybrid Technologist
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Real Name: John
Location: N.Colorado & S.Minnesota
Hybrids: 2005 Diet Ford Escape FWD, 2000 Honda Insight
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Re: Toyota: "no way" we can sell more Priuses than 2007
I think battery production is a limiting reagent.... however, just a thought here....
Do you think most of the people who want(ed) a hybrid already have one?
Maybe the demand is softening a little?
I do see fewer and fewer newcomers to sites like these...
I think the exponential growth is no longer there...
Also, I don't think Hybrids are a mystery anymore.
I have to explain my car to ever fewer people.
( I still get a few who confuse hybrid and flex fuel... so I want to make my hybrid a true flex fuel... then I'll cover all the bases. )
 -John
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02-22-2008, 10:29 AM
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Engineering first
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Real Name: Bob
Location: Huntsville, AL
Hybrids: Prius Classic 03
Posts: 4,902
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Re: Toyota: "no way" we can sell more Priuses than 2007
I don't think it is a production limit as much as the Prius is likely to see more competition. BTW, I'm looking at the NHW11 batteries and I really don't see them limited except by possible patent holder requirements. If I understand the timing, by 2015, it will be over and we'll see NiMH batteries like nobody's business.
Bob Wilson
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02-22-2008, 11:46 AM
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Real Name: Chris
Location: Raleigh,NC
Hybrids: 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid
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Re: Toyota: "no way" we can sell more Priuses than 2007
That fact of Nickel is based on the fact that they will be using NMH technology for their batteries. Lithuim Ion batteries have been in development for hybrids for several years now.........from what i've read. Toyota will continue to produce Prius's no matter what the challenges are to meet the demand.
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