Interactive hybrid cars resource
GreenHybrid Home - Hybrid Cars
Hybrid Cars Discussion Forums
Hybrid Articles
Hybrid Mileage Database & Car Specs
Hybrid Car Photo Gallery
Shopping Guide for Hybrid Cars


Go Back   GreenHybrid - Hybrid Cars > Hybrid Topics > Journalism & The Media
Register FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Journalism & The Media Television, radio, movies, newspapers, magazines, the Internet and more. 

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2008, 12:33 AM
Pravus Prime's Avatar
Pravus Prime Pravus Prime is offline
Prof. of Hybridology
 
Real Name: Rich
Location: Michigan
Hybrids: 2006 Ford Escape 4WD
Posts: 1,828
Default Re: Is Toyota unstoppable?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billyk View Post
Well KenG, I took the words directly from a Ford Executive in that Ford does not share hardware or software with Toyota. Ford developed their own "stuff". Don't confused this with the term "licensed".

Actually it is. Ford technology is what's in the Highlander Hybrid, Toyota "bought" it years ago when Ford was working on a Hybrid Explorer, before the Escape (conventional, not hybrid) ever saw full launch, though Toyota obviously made several changes and developments in the intervening years. After Ford wasn't pleased with the results of their technology, they went back to the boards and engineered the technologies on the FEH, then cross-licensed a bit because there were some similarities, something that's extraordinarilly common in todays auto market.

I also don't put too much credience into any executive for any company, given the number of times during a one on one interview I can raise questions on what they've just said, forcing them to rephrase it so they're no longer flat out lying to me. Such is the life of a journalist.

.



First 4WD Hypermiler

Have you read the FEH FAQ?

Live in Michigan? Let it be known in Michigan Roll Call
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-2008, 10:45 AM
diamondgoldsilver diamondgoldsilver is offline
Enthusiast
 
Posts: 4
Default Re: Is Toyota unstoppable?

Ford does not share any software or hardware components with Toyota.

.

A New Way to Buy New Cars.
www.opencarprice.com
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 04-08-2008, 12:07 PM
Whiterook Whiterook is offline
Active Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Fred
Location: SE PA
Hybrids: Prius
Posts: 64
Default Re: Is Toyota unstoppable?

Quote:
Originally Posted by caholla View Post
I have nothing against Toyota, however, their cars are generally bland and uninspiring. The technology and reliability may be there but it's not packaged in a manner that will keep people coming back for more (at least long term).

The last 3 rental Camrys I have rented had poor interior assembly and/or as much flash molding as the last Ford/GM I drove. The new Corolla is a missed opportunity, and having sat in one feels severely de-contented. The new Scion xB is a porker and gets significantly less gas mileage and lost some of its agility (and is difficult to see out of). The Scion tC is stale. The hybrid Lexus models (in my opinion) are poor financial choices for the buyers.

Slow and steady wins the race, and it appears that Toyota is now willing to sacrifice in order to leap ahead in sales. They may succeed, but they risk not being able to maintain.
Successful cars are often not particularly "sexy" or exciting. Some very successful cars: Oldsmobile Cutlass, Ford Taurus, Chevy Malibu, etc. An awful lot of people are pretty much only interested in spending their money on practical, reliable, well tried and proven cars for the mundane chores of daily transportation. Madison Avenue may think that people are motivated by excitement, but practicality, reliability and affordability rule for most of us.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 04-10-2008, 03:21 AM
spinner's Avatar
spinner spinner is offline
Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Hybrids: 2007 HCH-II
Posts: 259
Default Re: Is Toyota unstoppable?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sungod18 View Post
Who's says you should buy a car based on how well it sells
I do, and so does any one who knows the advantages. There is safety in numbers:
  • Availability of parts
  • Design faults and potential recalls are harder to ignore and deny
  • Faster servicing and shorter waits for appointments

Even though the Prius has good sales numbers, it will be outsold by the Toyota Camry Hybrid. This is already true in Canada, where even the Honda Civic Hybrid has reached parity (against the Prius). Note that the Civic is the best-selling car in Canada for the last 10 years.

.

2007 Honda Civic Hybrid -> sparkle grey pearl

Last edited by spinner : 04-10-2008 at 03:26 AM. Reason: Added the Civic's sales position in Canada for illustration
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 04-10-2008, 08:08 AM
Randyman Randyman is offline
Active Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Randy
Location: New York City
Hybrids: Toyota Camry Hybrid
Posts: 68
Default Re: Is Toyota unstoppable?

I don’t know if it is unstoppable, but it is a great car!!!

I think one thing that impresses me is the Camry Hybrid was one of the cars chosen to go on Taxi Duty in my home of New York City. http://www.1000www.autoblog.com/2007...ybrid-by-2012/
These cars are driven almost 24 hours a day (multiple drivers, multiple shifts), in the worse stop and go driving conditions imaginable and they probably average upwards of 60,000 miles a year!!!

I asked the Manhattan Toyota Dealer who said, “Most of the cars burn through their lifetime warranty in the first 9 months. They are holding up very well with a year in service.”

Please no jokes about needing the exterior made out of bullet proof Kevlar – it is my home town!!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 04-10-2008, 06:07 PM
pbpuzzle pbpuzzle is offline
Enthusiast
 
Hybrids: 2008 Toyota Prius
Posts: 4
Default Re: Is Toyota unstoppable?

yep

.


Visit the GreenHybrid.com Real Hybrid Mileage Database

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 01:48 AM
CJO2007CamryHyb's Avatar
CJO2007CamryHyb CJO2007CamryHyb is offline
Active Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Chris
Location: Raleigh,NC
Hybrids: 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid
Posts: 183
Default Re: Is Toyota unstoppable?

I think if they are not unstoppable...........they are most certainly at the top of the auto world now. They have the best quality hands down.

.

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 08:10 AM
Whiterook Whiterook is offline
Active Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Fred
Location: SE PA
Hybrids: Prius
Posts: 64
Default Re: Is Toyota unstoppable?

Quote:
Originally Posted by spinner View Post
I do, and so does any one who knows the advantages. There is safety in numbers:
  • Availability of parts
  • Design faults and potential recalls are harder to ignore and deny
  • Faster servicing and shorter waits for appointments

Even though the Prius has good sales numbers, it will be outsold by the Toyota Camry Hybrid. This is already true in Canada, where even the Honda Civic Hybrid has reached parity (against the Prius). Note that the Civic is the best-selling car in Canada for the last 10 years.

Another reason I've heard is the thought that, "It takes Detroit 10 years to learn how to build any given car design." There are people out there (me included) who are very leery of being the first on the block to buy a new car. This kind of buyer wants to see a car with a ten year track record before plopping down the cash.

For me, my '06 Prius represents a real leap of faith that Toyota knows what they're doing with this new hybrid technology. I was almost "forced" to take the chance because in my situation, the combination of; my salary + 72 mile daily commute + 23.3mpg in my old Ford Taurus + gas prices probably averaging $4.00plus per gallon from '06 thru '12 = certain financial catastrophe. The risk that Toyota's hybrid technology will blow up in my face is the more acceptable risk, in my view.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 05-08-2008, 06:36 AM
spinner's Avatar
spinner spinner is offline
Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Hybrids: 2007 HCH-II
Posts: 259
Default Re: Is Toyota unstoppable?

Quote:
Originally Posted by spinner View Post
Even though the Prius has good sales numbers, it will be outsold by the Toyota Camry Hybrid. This is already true in Canada, where even the Honda Civic Hybrid has reached parity (against the Prius). Note that the Civic is the best-selling car in Canada for the last 10 years.
That could use some further qualification: In the USA, Prius sales are currently more than double that of the Camry Hybrid and saw higher growth in April 2008. My interpretation of this is that in the USA, hybrids have yet to be generally accepted as "normal" cars. But I guess we already knew that from news items last year where people were coveting the "green" image more than the practical results. For example, one individual traded up their TCH for a Prius because they felt that the latter was more in-your-face about what it was. That is vanity.

.

2007 Honda Civic Hybrid -> sparkle grey pearl
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 05-08-2008, 07:49 AM
doasc doasc is offline
Enthusiast
 
Hybrids: None
Posts: 11
Default Re: Is Toyota unstoppable?

Quote:
Originally Posted by FastMover View Post
Huh ?

"Toyota Camry -- Best selling car in America for nine of the last ten years." (Edmunds)

"Toyota Corolla -- Best selling car in the World in 2007" (30 million as of end of 2007)
Back in the 70s the best selling car in the world was an air cooled VW Bug.

Back in the 80s the best selling car in America was the Oldsmobile Cutlass.

At the time no one was interested in watercooled VWs and Olds was the strongest brand of GM. Times change....
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Topic Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Consumer Reports sees Toyota reliability slip mikieboyblue Toyota Camry Hybrid 23 11-11-2007 08:29 PM
Toyota Recall again, Prius and others - faulty engines parts Hondasucks Journalism & The Media 1 07-19-2006 10:20 PM
Toyota Hybrid Police cars (long article) PriusGuy04 Journalism & The Media 11 02-08-2006 06:11 PM
Prius still Champeen, but HCH-II making push lars-ss Model Comparisons 58 02-02-2006 09:02 PM
NY Times- Toyota wants 10% hybrid sales gonavy Journalism & The Media 0 09-07-2005 11:33 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:48 PM.



This website is made possible by people like you.
Thank you.


HOME   .   DISCUSS   .   LEARN   .   COMPARE   .   SHARE   .   SHOP

About      Press Release      Contact

Suggested Link      Promote Hybrids      Site Store




COPYRIGHT © 2005-2006 Internet Brands, Inc. | Privacy Policy

SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0