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Old 12-13-2007, 01:32 AM
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Around September...I think (which is the normal change over for most car manufacturers).
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Old 12-13-2007, 04:00 AM
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The Camry was completely redesigned for the 2007 model year and i have not heard that there are any differences in the 2009. That is a short model year though.......August 2007 thru December 2007 for the 2008. I have a 2007 TCH and bought it right before the 2008's were released. I gave up trying to keep up with changes. The last car i traded in i bought new in 1987 and drove for 20 years! It only costs more money to try and keep up with the latest trends......save your money, it's not worth it!!

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Old 12-13-2007, 04:24 AM
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For what it's worth, changing the model year is the easiest way to pass on a price increase, since some/most/all will assume that they are getting a better car and not mind paying more for what is, in effect, the same product.
Very shrewd marketing!
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Old 12-13-2007, 05:37 AM
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I purchased my '07 XLE-V6 on March 1 '06 which means it was at the dealers before that. But the Camry line was a complete new redesign for '07 but not '09. I think those that purchased '08's recently are getting screwed by an instant extra 1 year depreciation.
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:02 AM
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So I just got a great deal on the 2008 TCH fully loaded with side moldings and mudguards..maybe only $200 above invoice...Can't Wait!!
Hubby said got me tom-tom for xmas..guess thats going back!!!

BUT wonder why Toyota is rushing all these model years?????
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:12 AM
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... wonder why Toyota is rushing all these model years?????
Can we all say "The Auto Shows"?
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:35 AM
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So I just got a great deal on the 2008 TCH fully loaded with side moldings and mudguards..maybe only $200 above invoice...Can't Wait!!
Hubby said got me tom-tom for xmas..guess thats going back!!!

BUT wonder why Toyota is rushing all these model years?????
I'll point out people have said the nav system is kinda weak in a lot of instances, so you may want to give it a test before throwing back the tomtom. I think a number of people have used other navigational systems because the one that comes with the nav system has so many problems. No clue if it's any better in newer releases of the disc.

I have no nav so I'm unaffected.

And ps--I got my 07 TCH in mid-June 06. Not as early as the march XLE, and I'm sure there are a few TCHs around here older than mine, but that was still pretty early. And in general I tended to recommend picking up a closeout 07 TCH vs a new 08 TCH toward fall--more negotiating room, more feature-inclusive bottom end, etc.

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Old 12-14-2007, 03:27 AM
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Sounds like a chance for a deal. Now you can go to the dealer and say you need another $2000 off because the 2008 is last years obsolete left overs. The 2009 model will be hard to get, because they are only making 100 of them before switching to the 2010 model .
I wonder if the 2010 model will use Lithium batteries. Lithiums are generally 50% lighter and have much more amperage. Although I looked at the Lexus online and using Lithiums it's mpg was not outstanding as I thought it would be. I hope they do better with the TCH.

I have notice a trend in lightning up the compact cars. Down from 2850 pounds to about 2650 on many brands. Must be a way for better acceleration and improved gas mileage. Cars must be safer now with so many air bags.

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Old 12-14-2007, 03:55 AM
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The Lexus hybrids are designed for performance not economy so that would be expected.
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Old 12-14-2007, 05:54 PM
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I wonder if the 2010 model will use Lithium batteries. Lithiums are generally 50% lighter and have much more amperage. Although I looked at the Lexus online and using Lithiums it's mpg was not outstanding as I thought it would be. I hope they do better with the TCH.s.
The Lexus hybrids all use NiMH batteries.

I seriously doubt that there will be any drivetrain changes until the next generation vehicle. Lately Toyota has been on a 5 year cycle with their cars. So I wouldn't expect to see any major changes until 2012.

The Prius is getting close to a major update. There have been conflicting reports on NiMH vs Lithium.
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