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Old 01-03-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Detailed hybrid system engineering specs.

I'm seeking detailed engineering specs on the Camry Hybrid drive train.

Ever since buying my TCH, I've been very interested with the inner workings of the HSD system inside. I'm trying to develop some software that simulates the hybrid power train components (primarily the power split device). I've been doing extensive research on the web and these forums and have acquired a lot of information. Unfortunately, I cannot find a place that provides exact technical specifications and am therefore missing some pieces of information. That is why I am seeking the knowledge of other techies on this site.

Here is what I have so far. This will also give you an idea of the detail I am looking for. Items with a "?" before them are unconfirmed specs. Any extra info regarding this subject will be greatly appreciated! Feel free to ask me any questions if necessary.

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  • ?Max Reverse Speed: 25 mph
    ?MG2toMPHConversionConstant: ?? (Prius: 59.14)
    Max EV Mode Speed: 42 mph
    ?Max Output Function: MG1 = 3.6 * ICE - 2.6 * (MG2/2.47)
Transmission
  • CompoundPlanetaryGeerRatioK1 : 2.600
    CompoundPlanetaryGeerRatioK2 : 2.478
    FinalDriveRatio : 4.050 (Prius: 4.113)
Engine
  • Peak Power: 109.62 kW (147 hp) [129 lbs-ft] @ 6,000 rpm
    Peak Torque: 138 lbs-ft @ 4,400 rpm
    Max RPM: 6,250
MG1
  • Peak Power: 72kW (96.55 hp) [36 lbs-ft] @ 14700 rpm
    Peak Torque: 36 lbs-ft @ 14700 rpm
    Min RPM: -14,700
    Max RPM: 14,700
    ?CPU Limited RPM Range: -10,000 to 10,000
MG2
  • Peak Power: 105 kW (141 hp) [167 lbs-ft] @ 4,500 rpm
    Peak Torque: 199 lbs-ft @ 0-1,500 rpm
    ?Min RPM: -1,200
    Max RPM: 12,400
    ?CPU Limited RPM Range: -1,200 to 4,500

Wheels (Tire)
  • Tire: P215/60 R16
    Sidewall: 5.1
    Radius: 13.1
    Diameter: 26.2
    Circumf: 82.2
    WheelRotationsPerMile : 771
    RollingResistanceCoefficient : 0.008 kg/kg
Max MPH = (((MG2 RPM / Final Drive) * 60 minutes) / Tire revs per mile)

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Old 01-03-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: Detailed hybrid system engineering specs.

try this place http://eahart.com/prius/psd/

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Old 01-03-2007, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Detailed hybrid system engineering specs.

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I've seen that Prius site and was actually inspired to do all of this research because of that site. Unfortunately, they only have Prius specs.
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Old 01-03-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Detailed hybrid system engineering specs.

Thanks for putting that up, I had not seen it before! Two years on PriusChat and I missed it somehow. You really do learn something new every day.

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Old 01-03-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: Detailed hybrid system engineering specs.

just a little nit picking as this is a detailed engineering request.

the reverse speed cannot be negative. You cannot have a negative speed.

not that it matters at all just being picky.
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Old 01-03-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Detailed hybrid system engineering specs.

Good call about the speed being negative. Being a physics enthusiast, I'm surprised I missed that one. I'll fix the posting. (I am notoriously nit-picky about details as well).
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: Detailed hybrid system engineering specs.

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I'm seeking detailed engineering specs on the Camry Hybrid drive train.
How do we know you're not an Industrial Spy for Nissan ??
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: Detailed hybrid system engineering specs.

I hope he is a spy for nissan, consumers need more choices and business needs more competition to quicken the pace of innovation.
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Old 01-06-2007, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: Detailed hybrid system engineering specs.

andrewbmoore - Have a look at pages AP-2, EG-3, and especially CH-3 of the "New Car Features (Functions?)" Manual posted to this site. The last of these pages gives gear ratios for the planetary gear sets, and the reduction gears that lead to the differential. These are not the same as the Prius' numbers. [By the way, I can't help wondering whether the numbers for the two planetary gear sets have been interchanged on page CH-3, after viewing the transmission diagrams themselves.]

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