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09-06-2006, 06:46 AM
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Real Name: GMAN
Location: Sootville TDI
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Re: Hellish oil change experience at Mossy Toyota
Not any more, a lot of new cars come with full synthetics new tecnology in piston rings ect they (so called breakin) the first couple hundred miles and will breakin with synthetic.
TCH-43mpg
VW TDI--48
08 LS 600 HL-20
08 LX 470-16

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09-06-2006, 07:40 AM
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Real Name: Nash
Location: San Diego
Hybrids: 05 FEH, 07 TCH
Posts: 596
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Re: Hellish oil change experience at Mossy Toyota
Anyone else notice how little oil the TCH uses? I'm at 4,800 miles and the oil is still at the full mark. I've been checking the oil level since I bought the TCH and am very surprised at the low oil usage. Not even down 1/4 of a quart after almost 5,000 miles.
I'm going in for my "free" oil change next week. Any suggestions on what I tell service or to watch out for? Mossy Toyota is nearer to me, but I'll be going to Chula Vista Toyota for the oil change.
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09-06-2006, 07:55 AM
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Keeping Toyota Solvent
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Real Name: Dr. Gregory House
Location: Princeton, New Jersey
Hybrids: 2007 Toyota Camry HV
Posts: 1,002
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Re: Hellish oil change experience at Mossy Toyota
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Originally Posted by stevenvillatoro
Ever since my oil change, my mileage is about 33.5 MPG, around 3-4 MPG less than my average. Even in areas where I would expect 38-40 MPG, I'm getting under 35. Nothing else has changed. Do you think the service department may have pulled a fast one on me to get even?
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Overfill perhaps? Prius's took a big mileage hit if overfilled even 1/4 quart.
Just a WAG.
J
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09-06-2006, 08:28 AM
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Real Name: Eski
Hybrids: Titanium Metallic CamHy
Posts: 158
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Re: Hellish oil change experience at Mossy Toyota
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Originally Posted by schmidtj
With all due respect ...
I'm not really sure it's such a good idea to switch to Synthetic too quickly.
You realy need to wait until the car is totally broken in. Expecially getting the rings seated.
The TCH's ICE runs much less of the time than a conventional ICE. I have to believe the break-in period might be a tad longer because of this.
J
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Good point you bring up Schmitty...this had never even occurred to me, but it makes a good amount of sense. That's the beauty of these forums...the Hybrid personality type seems to be an extremely thoughtful bunch.
...BTW, good use of WAG in your last post
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09-06-2006, 06:30 PM
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Somewhat hard driver
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Real Name: John
Location: CA
Hybrids: Camry Gray/Ash
Posts: 78
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Re: Hellish oil change experience at Mossy Toyota
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Originally Posted by stevenvillatoro
Ever since my oil change, my mileage is about 33.5 MPG, around 3-4 MPG less than my average. Even in areas where I would expect 38-40 MPG, I'm getting under 35. Nothing else has changed. Do you think the service department may have pulled a fast one on me to get even?
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They probably used 30W since that is what they wanted to use the first time.
Dealers normally pump oil from a 55 gallon drum.
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09-26-2006, 12:14 AM
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www.stevenvillatoro.com
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Real Name: Steve Villatoro
Location: Carlsbad CA
Hybrids: Former '02 Insight and '07 TCH owner; now drive a smart
Posts: 526
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Re: Hellish oil change experience at Mossy Toyota
Well, my disappointment with Mossy Toyota continues to grow. My oil change was Sept. 2, and I filed a formal complaint with national customer service the same day. Mossy Toyota had three business days to respond to me. So far, I've had no reply. I wrote a note to the customer service manager at Mossy, after she was a "no show" to our appointment, and she never called to apologize or explain why she didn't show up. Nearly two weeks ago, I left a friendly voicemail for her, saying that we had several issues yet to complete, and she did not return that call either. She promised to mail me oil change vouchers, and I have not yet received them.
What's my next step? Call or write the GM at Mossy? Re-contact Toyota's national customer service department with my case info? Or just continue to remind people of my horrible impressions of Mossy Toyota?
Last edited by stevenvillatoro; 09-26-2006 at 12:17 AM.
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09-26-2006, 08:53 AM
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Active Enthusiast
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Re: Hellish oil change experience at Mossy Toyota
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What's my next step?
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Start changing the oil and filter yourself. On this Camry is very easy to do it in your garage, you don't need a floorjack, stands or ramps, and you should be able to do a very clean job. This way you will know what you did, use the oil you want etc. think about...
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09-26-2006, 08:59 AM
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Real Name: GMAN
Location: Sootville TDI
Hybrids: 2007 TCH
Posts: 487
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Re: Hellish oil change experience at Mossy Toyota
Agree, did mine last friday, cakewalk and you know it is rite.
TCH-43mpg
VW TDI--48
08 LS 600 HL-20
08 LX 470-16

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09-26-2006, 10:03 AM
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Real Name: Nash
Location: San Diego
Hybrids: 05 FEH, 07 TCH
Posts: 596
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Re: Hellish oil change experience at Mossy Toyota
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Originally Posted by lovekills
Start changing the oil and filter yourself. On this Camry is very easy to do it in your garage, you don't need a floorjack, stands or ramps, and you should be able to do a very clean job. This way you will know what you did, use the oil you want etc. think about...
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How do you get access to the drain plug and filter without a jack or ramps?!!
I've looked under my TCH and there is very little room, perhaps 7 inches at most? Looks like too tight a squeeze to slide under it. What is your secret?
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09-26-2006, 12:01 PM
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Real Name: Jon
Location: CT
Hybrids: TCH Titanium
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Re: Hellish oil change experience at Mossy Toyota
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Originally Posted by stevenvillatoro
What's my next step? Call or write the GM at Mossy? Re-contact Toyota's national customer service department with my case info? Or just continue to remind people of my horrible impressions of Mossy Toyota?
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All the above, Steve. I would go National first, as they seem uninterested in doing the right thing at Mossy...
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