Interactive hybrid cars resource
GreenHybrid Home - Hybrid Cars
Hybrid Cars Discussion Forums
Hybrid Articles
Hybrid Mileage Database & Car Specs
Hybrid Car Photo Gallery
Shopping Guide for Hybrid Cars


Go Back   GreenHybrid - Hybrid Cars > Hybrid Cars > Toyota Camry Hybrid
Register FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Toyota Camry Hybrid The best-selling car in America.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-23-2006, 09:29 AM
Droid13's Avatar
Droid13 Droid13 is offline
HSD Organic Interface
 
Real Name: Andy
Location: Toronto, ON
Hybrids: 2007 TCH
Posts: 543
Thumbs up Hill Start Control Works!

I finally had the opportunity to try the hill start control function of HSD. I was coming out of an underground parking garage that had a very steep entrance up to the street. There was a line up a cars leaving so that meant having to stop right in the middle of this fairly steep incline. I knew the car had this feature so I gave it a test. I let my foot off the brake and paused for a second or two and the TCH didn't budge until I applied the accel. pedal.

This incline was steep enough that any car without some sort of "hill hold" system would require the driver to be very quick and alert to avoid falling back into the car behind. A succesful test.

.

Two climate control systems, one inside and the other at the tailpipe.

2007 Camry Hybrid (in service June 2006)
FE: 6.77L/100km (34.8 mpg) over 37750km (23450mi)
75% city - Ave trip 20 min - 2 Winters
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-23-2006, 09:56 AM
jbollt jbollt is offline
Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Jeff
Location: Tucson, AZ
Hybrids: TCH
Posts: 400
Default Re: Hill Start Control Works!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Droid13
.... I let my foot off the brake and paused for a second or two and the TCH didn't budge ....
Please explain further. You just took your foot of the brake pedal while stopped on a steep up-hill, and the car didn't roll back?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-23-2006, 10:10 AM
Droid13's Avatar
Droid13 Droid13 is offline
HSD Organic Interface
 
Real Name: Andy
Location: Toronto, ON
Hybrids: 2007 TCH
Posts: 543
Default Re: Hill Start Control Works!

Here's a link to the description of the system.

http://www.hybridsynergydrive.com/en...t_control.html

.

Two climate control systems, one inside and the other at the tailpipe.

2007 Camry Hybrid (in service June 2006)
FE: 6.77L/100km (34.8 mpg) over 37750km (23450mi)
75% city - Ave trip 20 min - 2 Winters
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-23-2006, 10:10 AM
Lilarienne Lilarienne is offline
Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
 
Location: CT
Hybrids: Jasper Pearl TCH (base)
Posts: 308
Default Re: Hill Start Control Works!

Would this be part of the stability & traction control system?

.

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-23-2006, 10:28 AM
jbollt jbollt is offline
Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Jeff
Location: Tucson, AZ
Hybrids: TCH
Posts: 400
Default Re: Hill Start Control Works!

wow! Even more tech wonders! This car is simply amazing! (well, not that simple afterall!) Thanks for the tip, Andy!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 08-23-2006, 10:52 AM
Orcrone Orcrone is offline
Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Marc
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Hybrids: Camry Hybrid
Posts: 1,031
Default Re: Hill Start Control Works!

Excuse my ignorance (there's a lot to excuse). I've driven manual transmissions where that would be a problem. But I don't think I've driven an automatic that would go backwards when in Drive. I would think that would harm the transmission. What am I missing?

.



Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 08-23-2006, 11:09 AM
bruceha_2000 bruceha_2000 is offline
Active Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Bruce
Location: Vermont
Hybrids: '04 Driftwood Prius '06 Barcelona Red Prius
Posts: 75
Default Re: Hill Start Control Works!

Interesting. There is a 'feature' in the 2004 Prius referred to as 'creep'. Austensibly so people wouldn't freak if they took their foot off the brake and the car didn't move forward (on a flat) as they would expect from any other automatic. If there is a balance of 'idle creep' and hill slope, it won't roll back. No different than any other automatic. The link shows a Prius and the 'hill holder' concept seems to generic to HSD. My '04 has slope sensors so maybe this is an improvement for the '06 (maybe '05, don't know) HSD. Another cause for '06 Prius vs '04 envy

Subaru has a "hill holding clutch". The brakes will stay on when you remove your foot until you start to release the clutch. Very helpful on hills. I needed to use the hand parking brake in my manual '86 Mazda for steep slopes.

.

Bruce
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 08-23-2006, 11:22 AM
Droid13's Avatar
Droid13 Droid13 is offline
HSD Organic Interface
 
Real Name: Andy
Location: Toronto, ON
Hybrids: 2007 TCH
Posts: 543
Default Re: Hill Start Control Works!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orcrone
Excuse my ignorance (there's a lot to excuse). I've driven manual transmissions where that would be a problem. But I don't think I've driven an automatic that would go backwards when in Drive. I would think that would harm the transmission. What am I missing?
An automatic in "D" can still roll backward at idle on a slope.

.

Two climate control systems, one inside and the other at the tailpipe.

2007 Camry Hybrid (in service June 2006)
FE: 6.77L/100km (34.8 mpg) over 37750km (23450mi)
75% city - Ave trip 20 min - 2 Winters
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 08-23-2006, 11:34 AM
Orcrone Orcrone is offline
Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Marc
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Hybrids: Camry Hybrid
Posts: 1,031
Default Re: Hill Start Control Works!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Droid13
An automatic in "D" can still roll backward at idle on a slope.
I didn't realize that, but there are no hills here so I guess I'm excused.

.



Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 08-23-2006, 01:35 PM
Lilarienne Lilarienne is offline
Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
 
Location: CT
Hybrids: Jasper Pearl TCH (base)
Posts: 308
Default Re: Hill Start Control Works!

This was a big problem for my 99 Corolla on very steep hills. Of course, it wouldn't be as much of a concern if people would not tailgate other people, especially on hills. I mean, if I can see the guy's uvula when he yawns in my rearview mirror then he's probably WAY too close to me....

.

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Topic Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Remote Start for FEH Scottie-d Ford Escape Hybrid &
Mercury Mariner Hybrid
20 05-26-2007 03:43 AM
Cruise Control Freeway Mileage in 06HCH (Experiment) NASAgineer Honda Civic Hybrid 55 12-05-2005 07:25 PM
Intelligent Cruise Control? myndreach Honda Civic Hybrid 10 10-15-2005 09:28 AM
Honda Civic Hybrid hill strategy drquine Fuel Economy & Emissions 5 09-21-2005 05:43 PM
Inclined Driving- Your Gas Saving Methods Red_The_Impaler Fuel Economy & Emissions 6 05-05-2005 03:23 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:53 AM.



This website is made possible by people like you.
Thank you.


HOME   .   DISCUSS   .   LEARN   .   COMPARE   .   SHARE   .   SHOP

About      Press Release      Contact

Suggested Link      Promote Hybrids      Site Store




COPYRIGHT © 2005-2006 Internet Brands, Inc. | Privacy Policy

SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0