Thanks Gairwyn! I think I found the fly in the ointment per say. I went onto the Honda OwnerLink website tpnight and the Honda site comes up with the original 2004 Civic IMA warranty info posted on 9/3/03. The IMA warranty posted there is 8/80 with no consideration to AT-PZEV It would seem like unless you are in the know about the warranty update that happened a week later on 10/5/2003 that extends the Civic IMA warranty for AT-PZEV to 10/150 - everyone's computers would all naturally come up with the original 8/80 info. Basically a data glitch. I will print out the Honda news bulletin and see if my local dealer can look into honoring the revised Honda warranty. No wonder their computers were coming up with the 8/80 warranty when I took it in. This helps alot. you are awesome!

Being I am in Virginia, 5 spd manual tran, ULEV, 99K+ miles I have more than enough strikes against me to get rejected by the Honda dealer for warranty work on the IMA battery. Another strike might be not being the original owner. It would be great to see the statistics (avg and "1 sigma" in miles to IMA battery failure (as measured by the car and/or stated/collected by the Honda dealers) for 2003-2005 models (other posts indicated Honda slightly changed the battery for 2006 and later models by adding extra cells and changing the control system/program to extend battery life by changing the end points on battery use at the expense of gas mileage). I'm sure Honda has the data. Was it a good business decision for them to extend the warranty to 10/150K in certain states in order to get the "certification" in those states?

Well the dealer price of $30 for a relay is probably consistent with the price of $60 for an on/off clutch switch.

I am just thankful the car I have is sort of a hobby item for me right now (until someone in the family needs a replacement anyway). This is certainly less stressful than if it was my everyday car that I had to depend on each day.

There is info on AC items over on the Honda Tech forum if you end up having to go beyond the relay replacement in the AC system to diagnose your problem. My current intermittent AC problem seems to go beyond just depleting the 12V overnight.

My AC not working was entirely related to the IMA charging/assisting/etc not working due to the blown 100 amp fuse on the 144V battery. Fixed the fuse...fixed the AC( evidently the control electronics kills the AC if the 144v battery charging is not working,...who would have guessed given the AC compressor is run off the 1.3L ICE and the driver could just as easily turn off the AC to get more power if needed. Maybe they wanted to incentivize us to fix the IMA by turning up the heat