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07-06-2008, 07:20 PM
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Joe Go Slow!
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Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Hybrids: 2006 HCH II
Posts: 42
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Dead battery, then brake system troubles
Yesterday, I accidentally left my keys in the ignition turned enough to roll my windows up (then got distracted & left for the day in the other car!).
After jump-starting the battery just like I have with any other car, I noticed that my ABS System light and Brake lights are on. The car isn't going into Auto Idle Stop when I drive anymore, and there's a buzz of 1 second or so when I turn the car off.
According to the owner's manual, this suggests that the power assist system has malfunctioned. Could this be related to the dead battery? Is this something I could have done, or should I expect this to be covered under my extended warranty? I only have about 32k miles on it (2006 HCH II).
I'm taking it to the dealer to get it checked out, but I'd love to hear some other thoughts on what might be going on before they convince me it's my fault and I have to pay big $$$ to get it fixed.
thanks all
/jf
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07-06-2008, 09:24 PM
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Active Enthusiast
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Location: Turtle Jxn, NC
Hybrids: 2008 HCH, previously Insight
Posts: 140
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Re: Dead battery, then brake system troubles
Let it charge completely before taking it in. You can safely do this by letting it idle in the driveway for a while (carbon footprint notwithstanding).
Does it drive normally?
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07-07-2008, 05:05 AM
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Joe Go Slow!
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Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Hybrids: 2006 HCH II
Posts: 42
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Re: Dead battery, then brake system troubles
Thanks - I'll try that. Other than not auto stopping, it seems to be idling a bit rough. I haven't noticed any problems with my brakes yet. I've driven about 50 miles since the incident.
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07-07-2008, 08:51 AM
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Wo ai Zheng!
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Real Name: Chris
Location: Columbus, OH
Hybrids: 2006 HCH2
Posts: 547
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Re: Dead battery, then brake system troubles
Are you getting any regen while driving/braking?
Someday I might even beat that wascally kenny!

No whammies... no whammies... no whammies...
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07-10-2008, 09:44 AM
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Joe Go Slow!
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Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Hybrids: 2006 HCH II
Posts: 42
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Re: Dead battery, then brake system troubles
I was getting regen, but not auto-stop. After waiting 2 days for parts, they replaced a control module and everything's working perfectly now. The scary part is that they think a power surge during the jump is what caused the problem. Fine w/ me while its under warranty, but what about when the warranty runs out?
They also ordered my control arm replacement kit, but who knows how long that will take to get...
I talked to another 2006 HCH-II owner this week who couldn't start his car after his battery died because the security system had lost its memory and wouldn't recognize his key.
Bottom line, don't let your battery die.
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07-10-2008, 10:26 AM
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Enthusiast
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Real Name: Rick Pecora
Location: Maryland, USA
Hybrids: 08 HCH II
Posts: 29
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Re: Dead battery, then brake system troubles
Good advise but as I sometimes go south for winter w/out the HCH II, the car might need a charge or jump on my spring return. Any advice would be helpful. Can I put a trickle charger on it for the winter?
Last edited by rpecora; 07-11-2008 at 04:31 AM.
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07-10-2008, 12:19 PM
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Eco Accelerometrist
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Real Name: MSantos
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Hybrids: 2006 HCH, 2007 Prius, 2007 HCH
Posts: 1,193
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Re: Dead battery, then brake system troubles
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeFuture
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Bottom line, don't let your battery die.
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Good advice !!!
Ahhh... a little solar panel to help keep it healthy and long lived does not hurt either, does it?
http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showt...ht=solar+panel
Cheers;
MSantos
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07-11-2008, 05:56 AM
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Enthusiast
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Real Name: Rick Pecora
Location: Maryland, USA
Hybrids: 08 HCH II
Posts: 29
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Re: Dead battery, then brake system troubles
Where does one buy the solar panels MSantos refers to? Is there any type of windshield shade the would be a solar panel to plug in to the dashboard acc. outlet?
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07-11-2008, 06:10 AM
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Eco Accelerometrist
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Real Name: MSantos
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Hybrids: 2006 HCH, 2007 Prius, 2007 HCH
Posts: 1,193
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Re: Dead battery, then brake system troubles
Hi Rick;
Unfortunately, you cannot plug a solar panel into the accessories outlet since the outlets are totally disconnected from the 12V system as soon as the car is off and the key is removed from the ignition. ::
I have no doubt some small company will fashion a sun-shade with similar abilities at some point. For now you can look them up in a variety of online places including eBay.
Cheers;
MSantos
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07-11-2008, 06:57 AM
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Enthusiast
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Real Name: Rick Pecora
Location: Maryland, USA
Hybrids: 08 HCH II
Posts: 29
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Re: Dead battery, then brake system troubles
MSantos
Thanks.... as I winter in Florida and HCH II stays outside in mild winter in Maryland my need is to prevent any dead battery on my spring return north. How about a trickle charger attached directly to the under hood 12v battery?
Rick
Last edited by rpecora; 07-11-2008 at 06:58 AM.
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