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Old 08-13-2006, 10:58 AM
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Default new battery cost?

has anyone had to replace the battery on any of their
Honda hyrid cars.

It have heard 4,000.00 for a new one and after 100,000 miles
it may need to be replaced.

alster
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Old 08-13-2006, 11:16 AM
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Real Name: Jeffrey N. Denenberg
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Default Re: new battery cost?

Alster,

First, battery failures in hybrids are rare and there is little reason to believe that they will last only 100,000 miles (200,000 miles should be more typical).

A salvaged Civic Hybrid battery is listed on ebay as I write this note.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...spagenameZWDVW

The starting bid is $199, but will go higher. Prius batteries have sold on Ebay for abot $500 in the past (They whosale new for about $1000) and have higher capacity than those in the Civic.

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Old 08-13-2006, 11:27 AM
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Don't forget the are warranted for 10 years or 150,000 miles in the 5 clean states.
8 years or 100,000 miles in the 45 "dirty" states.

Also in 8 years price will fall since they will be making so many more than they are today.

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Need fewer troops to support.
Drive a hybrid.
Best tank 71.65 MPG.

Before this car I spent two years learning hypermiling on my 2004 HCH1.
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Old 08-13-2006, 07:45 PM
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Thanks; guess I don't have to worry about buying
a battery in a couple of years.

alster
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Old 08-13-2006, 08:05 PM
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*8 years or 100,000 miles in the 45 "dirty" states.*

Hey, I resent that!LOL
But we, here, in the Inland Empire(Riverside Country,CA.)are refered to as the 'TailPipe of Southern California'...LOL...
Maybe if more people purchase Hybrids and the Government stops 'CuttingSlack' on the Major Factory Polluters, that reference will cease to exist! :-)

No Need To Worry About Battery Cost Now!!! We are still under Warranty!
So lets just 'KickBack and Enjoy the Ride and $avings of Gasoline!!!!!!!!!'

Lets leave it up to the Jealous Naysayers to worry about that and the rising cost of 'Petro'.

Besides I dont see our belove dealers being oppurtunistic and taken advantage of people they want to continue to do business with!

So You In The Slow Lane!

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Old 08-13-2006, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pingpongdave
Hey, I resent that!LOL But we, here, in the Inland Empire(Riverside Country,CA.)are refered to as the 'TailPipe of Southern California'...LOL...
Actually, California is one of those "clean" states! Yes, even the I.E. counts as "clean"!!!

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Old 08-14-2006, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: new battery cost?

I have over 70k miles on my '04 HCH, with no indication that the battery is performing any less than on day one.

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Old 08-14-2006, 11:17 AM
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Default Metal Hydride batteries- 1500 WH for $1400-full retail small units.

I have no doubt that the median life will be above 150000, which means these cars will be on the second and third owners when it happens.150,000 isn't my guess, it is according to a press release from Toyota-they used an unspecified number to over 150,000 miles with no failures.
I checked to see just how much it would cost me to buy 1500 WH(1.5 KWH) of metal hydride battery. At full retail price I would have to buy 150 batteries at $9.50 each. This was from Battery station at FULL RETAIL PRICE. Safe bet Toyota gets a better price.
The HCH 2 batteries are cheaper, since they have less energy storage capacity. The Prius battery pack has 20-30 units that can be replaced as needed; you don't replace the whole pack.
The battery pack is a red herring; it just isn't that expensive( much less than a transmission repair which is the sort of item that goes out at 150,000 miles).Heck, replacing a couple of CV joints can be close to $1000 now, and that is fairly common at 100,000 miles.A brake job can be pushing $500 easily.Our brakes might last longer??!!Luck,Charlie
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Old 08-14-2006, 12:03 PM
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zadscmc Mine is also around 75,000 miles and still no sign of wear, but I believe battery life will also depend on how we use it.

I myself am very careful about it...but also admit to being a bit extreme regarding FE. I drive about 50 miles twice a day and have about 20 stops each way.
One benefit of my efficiency efforts is the battery use is very light, and short duration.
I hope to take my HCH1 well past 350,000 miles and like to think my habits will extend its battery life. (Vs. someone who's into it considerably more)
However if the battery should go nearly flat...at...say....250,000 miles either I'd find a guaranteed used one, a cheaper aftermarket pack or just drive it as is.

I'm convinced IMA isn't so much for increasing fuel efficiency (Per say) but to bring the acceleration performance up. Years ago I had some Ford Pintos and a Chev Vega and always drove the gas either full on or full off.
Those were 19-20 second cars 0-60. (Extremely slow).

IMA brings the performance up to acceptible levels and prevents the "average" person from using the gas as I used in those old Pintos.
(Also raising efficiency for that reason)

But as I said I'm not "average" (Like many other pioneers here) and would be just about as happy without IMA's benefit.
-Steve

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Efficient drivers do it better.
1003 miles a tank personal record. 74MPG calculated. HCH1 CVT
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Old 08-14-2006, 09:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anahymbrid
Actually, California is one of those "clean" states! Yes, even the I.E. counts as "clean"!!!
Oh! My Bad...You know the I.E. Air Quality has improved lately but sometimes it can be really bad.

Maybe now we will get discounts on new batterys!
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