Interactive hybrid cars resource
GreenHybrid Home - Hybrid Cars
Hybrid Cars Discussion Forums
Hybrid Articles
Hybrid Mileage Database & Car Specs
Hybrid Car Photo Gallery
Shopping Guide for Hybrid Cars


Go Back   GreenHybrid - Hybrid Cars > Hybrid Cars > Honda Civic Hybrid > HCH II-Specific Discussions
Register FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

HCH II-Specific Discussions Model Years 2006+

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-15-2006, 04:49 AM
Aussie's Avatar
Aussie Aussie is offline
The Devil's in the detail
 
Real Name: David
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Hybrids: 2008 Toyota Prius
Posts: 146
Default Is it true?

When you take your foot off the gas pedal at the lights (after a full engine stop) is the Internal Combustion Engine actually using gas before you hit the gas pedal...or is the indicated RPM just coming from the electric motor turning over the ICE?

This might be difficult for U.S. owners to answer because your instant FE readout is in MPG - to a max of 150mpg I think. So this cannot truely indicate a "no fuel consumption" situation.

Whereas my readout is in litres per 100klm's (L/100klm) - indicating how much fuel I am actually using.

When I take my foot off the brake the RPM comes up, BUT...there is no indication of fuel consumption at all. But of course once I put my foot on the gas pedal, the readout goes way up - maximum is 12L/100klm. It always max's out on take off.

So is my assumption correct - that the although the ICE is turning over, it's all being done by the electric motor (in readiness for instant takeoff)?


Ta.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-15-2006, 05:14 AM
HyChi HyChi is offline
Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Scott
Location: Dutchess County, NY
Hybrids: 2006 HCH
Posts: 49
Default Re: Is it true?

The ICE comes on as soon as you lift your foot from the pedal. The engine is, in fact, idling in preparation of you stepping on the gas. BTW, in the US version the iFCD displays can switch back and forth between metric/liter consumption and MPG.

.

Scott

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-15-2006, 05:18 AM
kettleone kettleone is offline
Enthusiast
 
Location: NH
Posts: 41
Default Re: Is it true?

If you are stopped at a light and the rpm's are greater than zero, your engine is using gas. For some reason, your engine is not auto stopping at the light.

.

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-15-2006, 05:36 AM
msantos's Avatar
msantos msantos is offline
Eco Accelerometrist
 
Real Name: MSantos
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Hybrids: 2006 HCH, 2007 Prius, 2007 HCH
Posts: 1,192
Default Re: Is it true?

Actually, this is an awesome topic.

In Tarabell's article (find it here), she details our 06 Civic's ability to actually start from 0 (km/h or miles per hour) solely on battery power alone.

Of course, this is hardly something most of us would want to do on a regular basis - but it is possible. I was fascinated by this so much that I had to try it myself.

Cheers

MSantos

.



Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-16-2006, 11:45 PM
ElanC ElanC is offline
Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Elan
Location: El Cerrito, CA
Hybrids: 2006 HCH Alabaster Silver w/Navi
Posts: 699
Default Re: Is it true?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie
When you take your foot off the gas pedal at the lights (after a full engine stop) is the Internal Combustion Engine actually using gas before you hit the gas pedal...or is the indicated RPM just coming from the electric motor turning over the ICE?

This might be difficult for U.S. owners to answer because your instant FE readout is in MPG - to a max of 150mpg I think. So this cannot truely indicate a "no fuel consumption" situation.

Whereas my readout is in litres per 100klm's (L/100klm) - indicating how much fuel I am actually using.

When I take my foot off the brake the RPM comes up, BUT...there is no indication of fuel consumption at all. But of course once I put my foot on the gas pedal, the readout goes way up - maximum is 12L/100klm. It always max's out on take off.

So is my assumption correct - that the although the ICE is turning over, it's all being done by the electric motor (in readiness for instant takeoff)?


Ta.
No, the engine is consuming gasoline in that situation. The reason that the display shows zero is that the L/KM formula when you're not moving produces a zero-divide condition (in other words, your liters consumed per 100 KM are infinite). Instead of blowing its brains out, the computer is programmed to show zero in that situation.

.

2006 HCH Alabaster Silver w/Navi
2003 Honda Accord LX
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-17-2006, 06:09 AM
msantos's Avatar
msantos msantos is offline
Eco Accelerometrist
 
Real Name: MSantos
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Hybrids: 2006 HCH, 2007 Prius, 2007 HCH
Posts: 1,192
Default Re: Is it true?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElanC
No, the engine is consuming gasoline in that situation. The reason that the display shows zero is that the L/KM formula when you're not moving produces a zero-divide condition (in other words, your liters consumed per 100 KM are infinite). Instead of blowing its brains out, the computer is programmed to show zero in that situation.
That is a good point - and highly possible.

However, when the speed readout is reading a non zero value as the vehicle slowly starts to move (with assist!), the proper re-calculation should accurately reflect a 100mpg (or 0l/100km - in my case). Correct?

While I am not able to reproduce this "EV-only" mode every single time, when I do, it appears to be a very different experience. At first, I was a little frustrated as I was unable to duplicate it, but then, when I had the engine warm enough and on flat stretch of road - it happened. I managed to duplicate this phenomenon a couple more times just to be sure.


This is definitely worth investigating a little more.

Cheers;

MSantos

.




Last edited by msantos : 07-17-2006 at 06:10 AM. Reason: ommision
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Topic Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is Honda Civic Hybrid a True Hybrid? Maxi3D Honda Civic Hybrid 36 06-26-2006 07:51 PM
What do you think? Too good to be true? fernando_g Journalism & The Media 12 06-05-2006 10:29 AM
If This Is True - We're All Dead Delta Flyer Honda Insight 11 11-13-2005 11:36 AM
TJ Maxx says so, it must be true! team_venture Journalism & The Media 1 09-20-2005 10:10 PM
Is true ? senestecurios Introductions 2 06-10-2005 05:55 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:15 PM.



This website is made possible by people like you.
Thank you.


HOME   .   DISCUSS   .   LEARN   .   COMPARE   .   SHARE   .   SHOP

About      Press Release      Contact

Suggested Link      Promote Hybrids      Site Store




COPYRIGHT © 2005-2006 Internet Brands, Inc. | Privacy Policy

SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0