FWIW, http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2...rong-imho.html disagrees w/CR. However, a few days later, a different editor posted http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2...pressions.html.

06 Toyota Prius, 04 Nissan 350Z; mom has 07 NAH

To add some more Insight data points, see http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2...july-2009.html. I'd imagine that much of the Edmunds staff doesn't hypermile and probably doesn't have much incentive to drive very efficiently either. I'd also imagine that a fair bit of time is spent being stuck in horrendous LA area traffic.

http://www.edmunds.com/advice/fuelec...mktid=cj260233 - They specifically DID NOT hypermile in this comparison.

06 Toyota Prius, 04 Nissan 350Z; mom has 07 NAH

Holy Cow Batman we have a live one in here!

Cohen, you need to stop man! Now I am going to tell you my story about "bogus" numbers. I remember it like it was yesterday (que the flashback music).....

I just purchased a 2007 Honda Civic Hybrid and I was all so excited for I was going to embark on a gas saving journey. Well much to my surprise and several fill ups later.. I wasn't getting any where near the projected miles per gallons that was listed on the sticker. I thought, maybe there is something wrong, I mean I wasn't even close to the 50MPG that was listed on the sticker. I was getting 35's... everyone on this board was like, dude you on too heavy on the gas man! And I was like, no I am not man!

The point is that I would as a consumer be MORE impress by getting better than listed gas mileage than what I was getting from my HCH.

And honestly most people would think the same way, otherwise you get a lot of pissed off people like me that would have drove that car right through the dealership if I kept it one more day!

So while you sit there on ponder what to write next, how about we drop the whole CR is a crappy mag bit and just move on?

Believe me the Insight is not a pot of gold, its more like an over prices Yaris...
and if I am not mistaken, the Yaris comes with floor mats standard!

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1987 Chevy Spectrum - 200,000+ Miles -Junk Yard
1994 Honda Civic DX Coupe - Truck Hit it
1998 Acura 2.3 CL - End of Lease
2002 Acura TL 3.2 - End of Lease
2004 Acura MDX - End of Lease
2007 Mercedes ML350 -Lemon
2007 Honda Civic Hybrid w/Navi - Sold
2008 Acura TL w/Nav - Sold
2010 Honda Insight w/Nav - Current

Back when you got your 07 HCH, the EPA method hadn't undergone the MY 2008+ downward revision, so yep, it was rated 49/51, 50 combined. After the adjustment, it becamse 40/45, 42 combined per http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm.

Going back to CR, http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...ient-cars-206/ pegged the HCH with 37 mpg overall, not that far off from your 35.

Too bad the article I cited at http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/f...timates-22383/ didn't exist long ago. That along w/the 2 links in my post ought to be mandatory reading for any car buyer.

In 2001, when I bought my 02 Maxima, I had no idea what went into EPA tests. I could tell you from hand calculations that I was getting crap mileage from my former 02 Maxima and my 350Z in the city w/lots of idling (well below (old) EPA method city numbers). I exceeded EPA highway numbers on a long drive in my Max.

06 Toyota Prius, 04 Nissan 350Z; mom has 07 NAH

I constantly get better than the EPA listing in my Insight. I guess it depends how you drive. I use the information on the dash board as a learning opportunity. The info gives me instantaneous feedback on my driving.
I like the hatchback and fold down seats. I use the vehicle for work and hobbies and find that I can cary a lot of equipment. Cornering is super responsive. I really like the voice activated bluetooth and nav features as well as the I-pod integration.
6.000 miles and zero defects.

So summer finally hit here in the great northeast and yesterday was the first day I really had to run my AC pretty much all day. I logged about 150 miles yesterday and when I started out the avg mileage (trip A) showeing on the MID was 55.5MPG. At the end of the day the MID was at 55.3MPG.

Now using my calculator I get a difference of 0.2MPG. But then I whipped out my superduperdoubleplusgood Consumer Reports calculator and input 55.5 - 0.2 and I'll be darned if I didn't come up with 38MPG.

I definitely gotta get me a new calculator.

But seriously guys, I understand "your mileage may vary" and "use for purposes of comparison only".

But I'm getting 55MPG with this car without even trying very hard. I simply will not allow CR's bs numbers to be put out there with no push back.

Hence the name "Consumer Reports" in the diary title.

I still think CR is full of crap. I still wouldn't pay a penny for their useless rag. Hell I wouldn't even use their rag to wipe my butt, especially the electronic version. Ouch!

But I've made my point. The rest is just me having a few chuckles. To tell you the truth I'm surprised this thing is still making it to the front page.

Now let me see if I can talk the cable company into letting me use this special Consumer Reports calculator to tally up my bill.

Cheers.....

http://www.consumersunion.org/Oct_CR_Fuel_Economy.pdf has more details on their tests. If you care, here's Bob Wilson's take on the limited extra info we have on CR's tests: http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii-...tml#post940096.

One can monitor one's engine coolant temp via something like ScanGauge. One of the included gauges is FWT or CWT (Fahrenheit or Celsius water temperature).

mrkcohen: You won't be singing the same tune about your mileage once it starts snowing in your area. All cars are affected pretty badly by cold weather + winter formulation gas.

(As a side note: I can't speak to the Insight, but the 2nd gen Prius and NAH will keep the ICE running to provide cabin heat w/a cold engine, further hurting mileage. A cool test is to turn off the HVAC system and watch the ICE shutdown, then right as you turn it back on, the ICE comes on.)

06 Toyota Prius, 04 Nissan 350Z; mom has 07 NAH