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02-03-2006, 10:55 AM
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Livermore lab unveils big gun to scare off terrorists
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02-03-2006, 02:18 PM
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Re: Livermore lab unveils big gun to scare off terrorists
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I wonder if it shoots lead or depleted uranium?
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02-03-2006, 04:51 PM
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Re: Livermore lab unveils big gun to scare off terrorists
It says they're standard NATO rifle rounds, which would mean lead, or at best, FMJ lead bullets. Most likely FMJ since I'd hate to think how fast you'd foul the barrels when blasting 3000 rounds per minute.
If you want a better idea of what Dillon's minigun can do, check out this video:
Jesse James wastes an RX7 convertible on Dillon's test grounds with a Suburban mounted minigun
Oh, one thing to keep in mind: Only 1 out of 5 rounds is a tracer. For every 1 you see, there's 4 more you don't. 
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02-03-2006, 06:06 PM
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Re: Livermore lab unveils big gun to scare off terrorists
I've heard the hardest thing to defend against is an opponent eager to die while attacking you. Maybe these guns will convince them they won't get a chance to do any harm.
I wish holographics were a mature (and secret science). Then the Pentagon could set up holographic buildings to lure terrorists until they killed themselves off.
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Last edited by Delta Flyer : 02-04-2006 at 07:48 AM.
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02-03-2006, 06:25 PM
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Re: Livermore lab unveils big gun to scare off terrorists
That would be pretty cool!
I don't know that the Air Force uses decoy airfields anymore. Complete with inflatable fuel trucks and fighter jets! I was looking through some old field manuals that showed these mock airfields in use. Looked pretty real! Can you imagine a whole holographic encampment? Talk about psychological warfare...
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02-03-2006, 06:29 PM
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Re: Livermore lab unveils big gun to scare off terrorists
I tried a google search for inflatable airfields. I couldn't find any good pics, but I did find a cool PDF!
http://web.umr.edu/~rogersda/umrcour...on-Revised.pdf
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02-03-2006, 07:23 PM
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Re: Livermore lab unveils big gun to scare off terrorists
we have now officially gone completely crazy
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02-03-2006, 11:15 PM
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Re: Livermore lab unveils big gun to scare off terrorists
I want one that folds up and out of my trunk.
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02-04-2006, 07:46 AM
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Re: Livermore lab unveils big gun to scare off terrorists
Someone else can dig up the exact quote, but an ancient Chinese General said "War is the art of deception".
There was a pretty funny example of it during the Civil War. A Confederate unit badly depleated, marched in the open. They continued into the woods, where they ran back to do the march again - giving the Union army the impression they were massive. After the Union commander surrendered and saw how much smaller the force he allowed himself to be captured to, he was cussing.
There is a more recent example from the Cold War. In the 1950's, a few dozen Soviet bombers circled Red Square during May Day to give the Americans the impression they numbered into the hundreds.
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02-04-2006, 03:18 PM
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Re: Livermore lab unveils big gun to scare off terrorists
Sun Tzu: All warfare is based on deception.
As for your second reference, I think you're talking about General John B. Magruder & the Battle of Yorktown (the one in 1862, just before the Seven Days Battles, not the one in 1781, which is considerably more famous for what I hope are obvious reasons). However, the Union Army won that battle.
And to think that I didn't particularly enjoy my History of the Military Art courses....
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