Thanks all for keeping it civil.
Lakedude is right, this is surely a volitle subject, and each side is well trenched.

Efficient drivers do it better.
1003 miles a tank personal record. 74MPG calculated. HCH1 CVT

While I'm not a fan of Bush you need to check your history!
The following not in order

1993 World Trade Center bombing
OK City bombing
and then there are the terrorist attacks from the Feds. Waco and RUBY RIDGE

None of the above GW Bush was in office. Sorry couldn't keep biting my tongue.kevin

2004 silverblue 5 sp.

Texas...

I stand corrected. I did forget about the 1993 WTC attempt because it was basically a miserable failure.

The Tim McVey terrorist attack could have happened on anyone's watch. He was a US citizen and pulled off his crime with very little assistance from outsiders.

The Ruby Ridge and Waco incidents should have put "Jackboot" Janet in SuperMAX for three or four centuries. Her crimes probably played a part of Bush getting elected in the first place.


Of course...
that doesn't ...
have a lot to do...
with hybrids, ha ha...


Honda replaced my dead catalytic converter for free. (That's a hybrid comment!)

So true and nice to hear it was free!kevin

2004 silverblue 5 sp.

Actually it was very nearly a complete success. If they'd just placed the charges better and had a little more pop, they'd have take the whole tower down, fully loaded, no warning or chance to get out like there was in 2001.