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Old 11-27-2006, 03:04 PM
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Interesting Walt, that's not how it worked on the FEH when I took a multi-Nav CD Trip. https://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/...ead.php?t=7411

I suspect that the corrupt CD error threw it off, but it should have never asked for the origination CD, just the destination one.

In addition, at the rest stops, the first stop I found after I was no longer on the current area CD had some slight troubles, but straightened itself out as soon as I got off the street level areas and back onto the expressway. After that, I would just wait until I was back on the expressway, then hit the resume route button, which was far faster.
 
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Pravus Prime
I suspect that the corrupt CD error threw it off, but it should have never asked for the origination CD, just the destination one.

In addition, at the rest stops, the first stop I found after I was no longer on the current area CD had some slight troubles, but straightened itself out as soon as I got off the street level areas and back onto the expressway. After that, I would just wait until I was back on the expressway, then hit the resume route button, which was far faster.
Yea, it asked for the origination CD by specific disk number when I restarted at the rest stop.

You bring up an interesting point. Possibly, it was confused, but confused in a different way than I originally thought. I wonder if its confusion was due to it "waking up" in the rest stop, and therefore, not on any roadway on its maps? Just a guess, but possibly in its attempt to find itself on a road, it went off on some tangent that lead it wanting my origination CD (if you don't know where you are, start at the very beginning and retrace your steps?).

If I waited to press "continue" (or was it "resume"?) until I was back on the highway, as you did, it might have been OK?

But it really should not be all this difficult to use.

I mean, when I got off the highway, and it didn't have any secondary roads or streets in its current CD, it did know its GPS coordinates. Somehow, it should have checked its CD, realized that it didn't have the one that covers its current location, and prompted me for the right one. It didn't, and I find that a fatal flaw in its design.
 
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:26 AM
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Has anyone been on a long trip, that crossed CD boundaries, and had the NAV system actually prompt them to change the CD? I mean, a prompt something like "Please remove the current CD, and insert CD #8"?
 
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jmorton10
I picked up the VSS wire(speed pulse sensor) at the ABS brake module. It is a gray/black wire & I tapped into it with a 3M Scotchlock connector. It was slightly confusing at first as there are a couple black/gray wires, but after I found the right one it worked just fine.
I don't have the technical skills to find the VSS wire at the brake, but I do notice on the back of the NAV radio, there's a "speed pulse" sensor wire going into PIN #6 of the accessory jack.

Could I use a vampire connector to connect Garmin's "speed sensor signal cable" to the FEH's speed pulse sensor wire? Will this work? Am I looking at the correct wire? Will I blow anything up?



Originally Posted by jmorton10
As far as the BU light wire, I simply connected it at the right side tail-light & ran a wire to the front under the sill plates.
Same thing, as shown in the photo, PIN #10 seems to be FEH's reverse wire. Can I vampire Garmin's "reverse light switch cable" to this wire also going into the accessory on the NAV radio?

I am scared to mess something up with this.
 
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:18 PM
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Fed up with the built-in NAV, I finally ordered and received the Garmin 7500 today. Immediately, I noticed a big problem:

I can't route the Garmin 12V "cigarette" power adapter (which has a huge head) through the tiny holes on the dash to have a "clean" install with cables hidden under/behind the dash!! Picture here:



I can't really cut off the adapter because it has a 2.5A fuse and it down-converts voltage to 5V (according to posts here). Besides, at the end of the 12V adaptor there's a port for the dead-reckoning cable so the vehicle adapter must be kept in original condition, whereas the other end of power adapter is connected to the mounting cradle, so there's no way to route that through tiny vent holes near the windshield without cutting it up.

If I do snip it, how do I connect it together later? Soldering is pretty much impossible behind the dash, not to mention I don't have the equipment to do it

Any suggestions?!
 
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Old 11-30-2006, 05:57 AM
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Can you take the mounting bracket apart, and "disconnect" that cable internally?
 
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by greenhybrider
I don't have the technical skills to find the VSS wire at the brake, but I do notice on the back of the NAV radio, there's a "speed pulse" sensor wire going into PIN #6 of the accessory jack.

Could I use a vampire connector to connect Garmin's "speed sensor signal cable" to the FEH's speed pulse sensor wire? Will this work? Am I looking at the correct wire? Will I blow anything up?





Same thing, as shown in the photo, PIN #10 seems to be FEH's reverse wire. Can I vampire Garmin's "reverse light switch cable" to this wire also going into the accessory on the NAV radio?

I am scared to mess something up with this.
Me....I'd just go for it. We are talking about signal wires not power wires or anything. In inspecting the "vampire connectors" I bought from radioshack (they are made by 3M and sold everywhere) I saw that they don't actually "pierce" the wire as you might expect from the name. There is actually a U-shaped metal 'blade' that is clamped down onto the wire. The blade slices into the coating on the sides of the wire and contacts the copper conductor inside. I think the visible damage is minimal. If you are worried about anyone ever seeing it later on, just tap into the wires further into the dash where they'll never see the electrical tape you used to cover the slices in the coating.
 
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Old 12-16-2006, 02:34 PM
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I just picked up a new loaded 2007 MMH yesterday. I guess I have to add myself to the folks who are not impressed with the nav system. I live on the Kentucky-Illinois state line. Needless to say, my metro area requires two CD's just for local coverage. I drive an entertainer coach and travel about 100,000 miles per year. I have used Garmin units for years and currently use a Garmin 7200. It just seems to work much better. It doesn't matter if I'm in Montreal or LA or Miami, it works without loading any CD's. With that said, this is my wife's car and I doubt if she ever turns on the GPS. Now to my point, the unit has outdated software (as others have posted). Is there any proceedure to get current (read free) software from Ford?

I REALLY ENJOY THIS FORUM! First drive Nashville to Paducah, KY 32.1 mpg
 
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Old 12-23-2006, 04:41 PM
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I just purchased a 2007 FEH, and want to add myself to the list of people that hate the NAV system. I recently bought a 2006 Ford Explorer and love the updated nav system in that. I don't understand why they couldn't have adopted that system in the 2007 FEH model. It looks like they updated it in the 2008, and hopefully they will have a way of upgrading for previous owners. I would definitely upgrade to the touchscreen nav system, as long as i could also get the hybrid info display.
 
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Old 12-23-2006, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by richman107
It looks like they updated it in the 2008, and hopefully they will have a way of upgrading for previous owners. I would definitely upgrade to the touchscreen nav system, as long as i could also get the hybrid info display.
Don't hold your breath on that one, unfortunately. From Ford's standpoint they have little reason to offer an upgrade option. It won't sell any more of the old FEH's, and not enough people will buy the upgrade to make it financially worth the engineering costs involved in making it work with the older models.
 


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