Cadillac will get hybrid Escalade
#1
02-09-2006, 04:55 PM
Cadillac will get hybrid Escalade
General Motors CEO Rick Wagoner confirmed that Cadillac will get its first hybrid vehicle in the fall of 2007 with the 2008 Escalade SUV.
The hybrid version of the Escalade will use a new transmission made by GM’s Allison division. The two-mode hybrid system will be similar to what GM will use in the hybrid version of a Chevrolet Tahoe and GMC Yukon SUVs.
The hybrid Escalade, which will also use cylinder deactivation technology on the internal combustion engine, will get a 25 percent gain in fuel economy, meaning the vehicle could get close to 30 mpg on the highway.
The hybrid version of the Escalade will use a new transmission made by GM’s Allison division. The two-mode hybrid system will be similar to what GM will use in the hybrid version of a Chevrolet Tahoe and GMC Yukon SUVs.
The hybrid Escalade, which will also use cylinder deactivation technology on the internal combustion engine, will get a 25 percent gain in fuel economy, meaning the vehicle could get close to 30 mpg on the highway.
Last edited by Jason; 02-09-2006 at 04:58 PM.
Re: Cadillac will get hybrid Escalade
#3
02-09-2006, 11:03 PM
Re: Cadillac will get hybrid Escalade
IF, and it seems like a big if, a hybrid escalade was rated by the EPA at 30mpg then that'd really be something. Cadillac didn't have any MPG figures that I could find on their website for the '07 Escalade. Chevy's Tahoe is very similar and rated at 16/22mpg (4WD 15/21). The Tahoe uses a 5.3L V8 while the new Escalade uses a 6.2L V8, not sure how that will affect the mpg. I'm thinking I might have read somewhere that the 6.2L has some additional fuel saving technology that the current 5.3Ls used in the Tahoes dont have or don't have yet. I know the '07 Escalade has a new 6spd transmission while the early '07 Tahoes still come with a 4spd.
So I guess IF the non hybrid '07 Escalade is rated at 24mpg on the highway and the hybrid version improves the highway mpg by 25% then it would be rated at 30mpg highway. If it's rated at 23mpg, a 25% would have the hybrid version at 28.75mpg on the highway....close. I wonder if theres any place in Vegas taking bets on whether or not the '08 Escalade hybrid will be rated at 30mpg on the highway....
So I guess IF the non hybrid '07 Escalade is rated at 24mpg on the highway and the hybrid version improves the highway mpg by 25% then it would be rated at 30mpg highway. If it's rated at 23mpg, a 25% would have the hybrid version at 28.75mpg on the highway....close. I wonder if theres any place in Vegas taking bets on whether or not the '08 Escalade hybrid will be rated at 30mpg on the highway....
#5
02-10-2006, 05:10 AM
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Well... I guess that GM is putting 2-Mode into the high-end vehicles because a $3k-$5k hybrid premium translates into a smaller % cost differential on expensive cars. My only concern is whether greedy, aging Yuppies (who are the only ones who can afford a SUV like that) actually give a **** about the environment. I just don't know.
At least it will be an *option* for consumers, and I think that's awesome!
At least it will be an *option* for consumers, and I think that's awesome!
#6
02-10-2006, 06:27 AM
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what an incredible waste of technology and natural resources......just think what these engineers could do if they didn't feel they had to create a hybrid out of every huge behemoth on the road just to please the bottom line of their CEO and the ego of some yuppie........ 
#7
02-10-2006, 06:28 AM
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Does anybody know what the mean by their "two mode hybrid"?
#8
02-10-2006, 07:55 AM
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The GM hybrid system is supposed to be much cheaper than the existing systems.
I believe the "two mode hybrid" is basicly similar to what we have now in cars. GM also has a BAS system which is basicly an alternator on steriods.
I believe the "two mode hybrid" is basicly similar to what we have now in cars. GM also has a BAS system which is basicly an alternator on steriods.
#9
02-10-2006, 08:18 AM
Re: Cadillac will get hybrid Escalade
Originally Posted by fernando_g
Does anybody know what the mean by their "two mode hybrid"?
It appears to be a CVT, based on this quote from Seattle:
"This bus is totally different," explained Stephens. "When you go to drive away you hear next to nothing. The electric drive system augments the torque required to drive away and helps the diesel engine so you get a nice, smooth, quiet drive away and there are no shifts whatsoever; it is totally smooth, more like light-rail transportation as opposed to what you conventionally think of with bus transportation."
Also part of this system will be cylinder shutdown, aka "active fuel management"
This is NOT the BAS system that is on the Sliverado and VUE.
#10
02-10-2006, 09:40 AM
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Just reading the headline makes my skin crawl. Yes I guess an Escalade-with-hybrid is an improvement over Escalade-without-hybrid, but the phrase "lipstick on a pig" sort of comes to mind.
No....make that "polishing a t*rd".
No....make that "polishing a t*rd".
