One tire punctured, have to replace all?

  #1  
Old 07-10-2013, 04:53 PM
greenhybrider's Avatar
Active Enthusiast
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 155
Question One tire punctured, have to replace all?

I have no idea what I hit when driving past a road construction site last weekend, now the passenger-side rear tire has a huge gash on the side-wall, basically irreparable.

My dealer still has the original Continental ContiTrac Ecoplus for replacement, but I was shocked to be told I would have to replace ALL FOUR tires even though only one is gone. When asked why, my dealer and a couple of stores all told me the ABS wouldn't work properly.

After doing some research, it seems the problem is especially serious for AWD vehicles like my 2006 FEH, something to do with some kind of "differential"? Please excuse my ignorance

I'm wondering if other owners have faced this surprise or issue or having to replace all tires just simply because one blew up?

Now that I may have no choice but to get new tires, I'm wondering if the Michelin Latitude Tour is a better buy since it's only about $20 more than the original Continental Ecoplus? Should I go for the Michelin Latitude Tour over the OEM Continental Ecoplus? The Michelins are supposed to be quieter and better?
 
  #2  
Old 07-11-2013, 12:53 AM
elborak's Avatar
Cheapskate
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Southwestern PA
Posts: 118
Default Re: One tire punctured, have to replace all?

Yes, unless the tires are pretty close to new, you should replace all 4 on this type of AWD vehicle. I've had to do this with my Subarus as well.
 
  #3  
Old 07-11-2013, 06:15 AM
wptski's Avatar
Imported from Detroit
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,051
Default Re: One tire punctured, have to replace all?

I don't think that you need to replace all four but just in pairs or both rear tires.
 
  #4  
Old 07-11-2013, 04:38 PM
stevedebi's Avatar
Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 895
Default Re: One tire punctured, have to replace all?

Originally Posted by wptski
I don't think that you need to replace all four but just in pairs or both rear tires.
If the rear wheels are spinning at enough of a different speed than the front tires, the AWD may be invoked - all the time.

For FWD it doesn't matter, so long as left and right are replaced together.
 
  #5  
Old 07-11-2013, 07:05 PM
wptski's Avatar
Imported from Detroit
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,051
Default Re: One tire punctured, have to replace all?

Originally Posted by stevedebi
If the rear wheels are spinning at enough of a different speed than the front tires, the AWD may be invoked - all the time.

For FWD it doesn't matter, so long as left and right are replaced together.
The OP can change all four if they wish and I'd guess that a tire dealer would say this. To my understanding this only applies to AWD which has a center differential which the Escape doesn't. If it did the Ford Workshop Shop Manual wouldn't have a pinpoint test for proper operation which is to command 100% rear wheel torque and if the vehicle resists turning, it's working properly.

What does the Owner's Manual state if anything about this?

It's so important that it's not even mentioned in my manual.
 

Last edited by wptski; 07-11-2013 at 07:25 PM.
  #6  
Old 07-12-2013, 03:28 PM
stevedebi's Avatar
Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 895
Default Re: One tire punctured, have to replace all?

Originally Posted by wptski
The OP can change all four if they wish and I'd guess that a tire dealer would say this. To my understanding this only applies to AWD which has a center differential which the Escape doesn't. If it did the Ford Workshop Shop Manual wouldn't have a pinpoint test for proper operation which is to command 100% rear wheel torque and if the vehicle resists turning, it's working properly.

What does the Owner's Manual state if anything about this?

It's so important that it's not even mentioned in my manual.
I don't know about the shop manuals, but the question is how does the AWD get invoked? Is it when the front wheels spin, or when the front and rear wheels are moving at different speeds? If the former, it is no problem to have different front and rear, if the latter, it could cause problems.

I'm not sure how Ford implemented the AWD. Honda did the latter, for example, and would have problems.
 
  #7  
Old 07-12-2013, 07:38 PM
wptski's Avatar
Imported from Detroit
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,051
Default Re: One tire punctured, have to replace all?

Originally Posted by stevedebi
I don't know about the shop manuals, but the question is how does the AWD get invoked? Is it when the front wheels spin, or when the front and rear wheels are moving at different speeds? If the former, it is no problem to have different front and rear, if the latter, it could cause problems.

I'm not sure how Ford implemented the AWD. Honda did the latter, for example, and would have problems.
If you Google this topic you'll see that they mention about differential stress due to tire diameter differences. If there was any caution it would be in the owner's manual.
 
  #8  
Old 07-13-2013, 08:28 PM
Billyk24's Avatar
Active Enthusiast
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 175
Default Re: One tire punctured, have to replace all?

Page 173 of the 2005 FEH owners manual briefly mentions dissimilar tires could lead to impairment of the all wheel drive system.

The usage of a dissimilar spare tire/wheel can lead to impairment of the

following:


Handling, stability and braking performance

Comfort and noise

Ground clearance and parking at curbs

Winter weather driving capability

Wet weather driving capability

All-Wheel driving capability (if applicable)


There is nothing about needing all 4 tires with the same wear. I would guess tires on the same axle need to be about the same.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Topic Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
salesrep
Honda Accord Hybrid
4
03-26-2014 09:03 PM
mnsweeps
Toyota Highlander Hybrid
0
03-31-2008 10:42 PM
belbe
Toyota Camry Hybrid
3
07-04-2007 12:33 PM
Sorsha
HCH II-Specific Discussions
0
02-08-2007 04:53 AM
tigerhonaker
Events & Gatherings
0
06-18-2006 06:22 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: One tire punctured, have to replace all?


Contact Us -

  • Manage Preferences
  • Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

    When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.

    © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands


    All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:00 PM.