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When starts the EV assist every day ?

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Old 03-27-2010, 03:47 AM
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Hello friends. I own a HCH 09 and i am a really happy driver , as i am very pleased with my car. But i have a question and i would like your help for it.
Every morning as you know the EV assist wont work for the first minutes , less in summer , more in winter. What i dont know is what determines when the assist is turned on as this greatly affects the mileage of my car , ecpecially the days when my only driving is from home to work. I have tried various driving styles ( speaking of days with the same external temperature ) and i have noticed that , sometimes without an obvious reason the EV turns on after about 6 Km or 15 minutes of driving at an external temperature of 8-12 deg C , some other (few )days it happens after only 2-3 Kms. Anyone knows what we can do to minimise this distance ?
 
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Old 03-27-2010, 06:30 AM
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The engine temp has to be at 140 F for that to happen. the colder the engine, the longer it takes. When it was -8 F below here (than goodness only one day) the engine never got warm enough for auto-stop even after 25 minutes.

In Canada, most HCH have engine block heaters that keep the engine at about 120 F so it only takes a minute to heat up even in the dead of winter.

You can add one to you HCH and if you keep it plugged in - the time will be in the minute range.
 
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:31 AM
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Block heaters really help, good for your engine's longevity as well. Another thing you can do is partially block the grill. MSantos has some guidelines here:

http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17560

I find starting by blocking the upper grill most beneficial. I think it tends to hold the heat in the engine bay most effectively.
 
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Old 03-27-2010, 09:10 AM
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I didnt mean the auto stop friends , i meant EV assist. Even so , i have noticed that some days it begins sooner and some other days later ( assuming the outside temperature is the same ) and i wonder if anyone has found a reason why it is happening. I guess it has something to do with driving style but i cannot find a specific way how.
 
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:32 AM
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Full Charge/Assist and AutoStop tend to come on around the same time, and both starts are coolant/engine temperature driven. Assist only is available from start up. So if your Charge/Assist start times vary, it's a safe bet your warm-up times vary. Hit the "Display Change" button (just to the right of Sel/Reset, the tandem buttons at lower left corner of gauges) to toggle between instant mileage and coolant temp display: you can see temp climbing there. It invariably gets to halfway up and stabilizes there. Until it does you will get Assist (but no Charging), and likely no AutoStop.
 

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Old 03-27-2010, 09:42 PM
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I tend to agree with what others have said already. One other thought is whether your state of charge is at the same level at the beginning of your daily drive. I believe the IMA is less willing to assist when the state of charge is low (4 bars or less).

Try watching how quickly the coolant temperature rises. You should see 3-4 bars within about 2 kilometers in above freezing conditions. Another suggestion is to turn the climate control off until you see the coolant temperature rising to 3+ bars.

Even though your car is still very new, it may have a faulty thermostat. You should notice the temperature rising fairly quickly and then stabilize at around 9-10 bars (a bit below mid-range). A stuck thermostat is a common problem and will explain a slow warm-up. It's an easy repair if needed.

Cheers,

Roger
 

Last edited by Dream'R; 03-29-2010 at 12:17 AM. Reason: Correction of normal temperature reading
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:44 AM
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I think this is what youre looking for:

http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13570

ks
 
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