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#1
12-19-2014, 12:46 PM
New to this
Hi I am looking at buying a 2009 sierra 6.0l 4x4 hybrid.
From what I have read they seem to be a decent unit.
The one thing that scares or at least has made me curious is the large number of hybrids for sale that have very low mileage.
Comparable single fuel vehicles seem to average 20 000 miles per year so a 2009 in my mind should have roughly 100 000 miles on it by now.
The whole idea behind this techology I would think would be lower cost per mille to operate, appealing to people like myself that do a lot of driving.
The majority of the vehicles I have seen for sale including the one I am considering seem to almost all be low mileage units.
Can someone comment on this?
Other question is how do these vehicles preform/start in a cold climate?
Not uncommon to see -40 in our region.
Dave
From what I have read they seem to be a decent unit.
The one thing that scares or at least has made me curious is the large number of hybrids for sale that have very low mileage.
Comparable single fuel vehicles seem to average 20 000 miles per year so a 2009 in my mind should have roughly 100 000 miles on it by now.
The whole idea behind this techology I would think would be lower cost per mille to operate, appealing to people like myself that do a lot of driving.
The majority of the vehicles I have seen for sale including the one I am considering seem to almost all be low mileage units.
Can someone comment on this?
Other question is how do these vehicles preform/start in a cold climate?
Not uncommon to see -40 in our region.
Dave
#2
12-21-2014, 07:15 AM
Re: New to this
you probably did not read my threads about my 2009 escalade hybrid. I have 192k miles, trouble free as it is and that's the reason why I don't want to trade it for the 2015 escalade premium or platinum as I will be missing all the benefits of the hybrid.
#3
12-21-2014, 09:18 AM
Re: New to this
Hi evois thanks for your reply
I am not saying I have not seen any Hybrid trucks with what I would consider normal mileage but we are in truck country and the average 2012 gas or diesel pick-up for sale around here has about 150 000 kms on it.
In my area this is what is advertised for sale for GM hybrids;
- 2011 Escalade 41 000 kilometeres [approx 25 000 miles] $59 995.00
- 2010 Silverado 130 000 kms $20 900.00
- 2013 Yukon 60 000 kms $35 000.00
- 2009 Escalade 143 800 kms $33 900.00
- 2008 Yukon 171 000 kms $18 500.00
- 2009 Sierra 86 000 kms $26 500.00
- 2010 Sierra 130 100 kms $22 800.00
- 2009 Escalade 108 000 kms $42 000.00
- 2013 Yukon Denali 31 000 kms $56 900.00
- 2011 Sierra 65 100 kms $26 000.00
- 2009 Sierra 96 000 kms $26 500.00
- 2010 Sierra 159 800 kms $26 000.00
- 2009 Silverado 202 000 kms $16 000.00
- 2009 Sierra 162 000 kms $22 900.00
- 2011 Escalade 49 500 kms $54 000.00
- 2010 Tahoe 108 000 kms $30 000.00
- 2009 Tahoe 103 000 kms $24 500.00
- 2013 Tahoe 19 000 kms $55 000.00
So I hope you can see what I mean when I say most of what I see for sale is lower mileage than what I would expect.
The one I am considering only has 20 000 kms on it but it was a write off rebuilt by an insurance company and used as a staff car.
Dave
I am not saying I have not seen any Hybrid trucks with what I would consider normal mileage but we are in truck country and the average 2012 gas or diesel pick-up for sale around here has about 150 000 kms on it.
In my area this is what is advertised for sale for GM hybrids;
- 2011 Escalade 41 000 kilometeres [approx 25 000 miles] $59 995.00
- 2010 Silverado 130 000 kms $20 900.00
- 2013 Yukon 60 000 kms $35 000.00
- 2009 Escalade 143 800 kms $33 900.00
- 2008 Yukon 171 000 kms $18 500.00
- 2009 Sierra 86 000 kms $26 500.00
- 2010 Sierra 130 100 kms $22 800.00
- 2009 Escalade 108 000 kms $42 000.00
- 2013 Yukon Denali 31 000 kms $56 900.00
- 2011 Sierra 65 100 kms $26 000.00
- 2009 Sierra 96 000 kms $26 500.00
- 2010 Sierra 159 800 kms $26 000.00
- 2009 Silverado 202 000 kms $16 000.00
- 2009 Sierra 162 000 kms $22 900.00
- 2011 Escalade 49 500 kms $54 000.00
- 2010 Tahoe 108 000 kms $30 000.00
- 2009 Tahoe 103 000 kms $24 500.00
- 2013 Tahoe 19 000 kms $55 000.00
So I hope you can see what I mean when I say most of what I see for sale is lower mileage than what I would expect.
The one I am considering only has 20 000 kms on it but it was a write off rebuilt by an insurance company and used as a staff car.
Dave
#4
12-21-2014, 09:50 AM
Hi evois thanks for your reply I am not saying I have not seen any Hybrid trucks with what I would consider normal mileage but we are in truck country and the average 2012 gas or diesel pick-up for sale around here has about 150 000 kms on it. In my area this is what is advertised for sale for GM hybrids; - 2011 Escalade 41 000 kilometeres [approx 25 000 miles] $59 995.00 - 2010 Silverado 130 000 kms $20 900.00 - 2013 Yukon 60 000 kms $35 000.00 - 2009 Escalade 143 800 kms $33 900.00 - 2008 Yukon 171 000 kms $18 500.00 - 2009 Sierra 86 000 kms $26 500.00 - 2010 Sierra 130 100 kms $22 800.00 - 2009 Escalade 108 000 kms $42 000.00 - 2013 Yukon Denali 31 000 kms $56 900.00 - 2011 Sierra 65 100 kms $26 000.00 - 2009 Sierra 96 000 kms $26 500.00 - 2010 Sierra 159 800 kms $26 000.00 - 2009 Silverado 202 000 kms $16 000.00 - 2009 Sierra 162 000 kms $22 900.00 - 2011 Escalade 49 500 kms $54 000.00 - 2010 Tahoe 108 000 kms $30 000.00 - 2009 Tahoe 103 000 kms $24 500.00 - 2013 Tahoe 19 000 kms $55 000.00 So I hope you can see what I mean when I say most of what I see for sale is lower mileage than what I would expect. The one I am considering only has 20 000 kms on it but it was a write off rebuilt by an insurance company and used as a staff car. Dave
Last edited by evois; 12-21-2014 at 10:17 AM.
#5
12-21-2014, 10:39 AM
Re: New to this
We are located in North west Saskatchewan Canada
The vehicles listed for sale are in Alberta and Saskatchewan
I understand what you are saying about low mileage for resale value.
I tend to get everything I can out of a vehicle, rebuild it and do it again so most of my trucks see 300 000 + miles before I retire them.
Just have a hard time understanding somebody paying the extra bucks for a fuel efficient vehicle the not reaping the benifits of it in fear of lowering the resale value.
Inside of 25 000 miles what does one save in fuel costs driving a hybrid?
$1000.00-$2000.00 tops would be my guess sure not enough to offset the higher initial cost.
My intent if I buy this truck woud be to put another 200 000 - 250 000 miles on it if it will hold together for that long.
By my way of thinking that would more than justify the price.
The vehicles listed for sale are in Alberta and Saskatchewan
I understand what you are saying about low mileage for resale value.
I tend to get everything I can out of a vehicle, rebuild it and do it again so most of my trucks see 300 000 + miles before I retire them.
Just have a hard time understanding somebody paying the extra bucks for a fuel efficient vehicle the not reaping the benifits of it in fear of lowering the resale value.
Inside of 25 000 miles what does one save in fuel costs driving a hybrid?
$1000.00-$2000.00 tops would be my guess sure not enough to offset the higher initial cost.
My intent if I buy this truck woud be to put another 200 000 - 250 000 miles on it if it will hold together for that long.
By my way of thinking that would more than justify the price.
#7
12-31-2014, 02:34 PM
Re: New to this
As for cold weather operation here is a video of the Chevy Volt cold weather testing. I would assume the "Big" Hybrids got something similar.
http://www.videoatgm.com/videos/us/e...01001/1?GSAoff
In my experience in Cold weather (nor cal mountains and Nevada high desert) my Silverado Hybrids perform VERY well. I really like the full time 4x4 (auto) feature. In a dry/black ice mix like you get on mountain roads it can save your ***. I have done some driving in deep (7-8 inches) snow and it performs ok, but really that is a function of tires more than Hybrid. They are clearly a light duty truck and won't keep up with a 3/4 or 1 ton.
http://www.videoatgm.com/videos/us/e...01001/1?GSAoff
In my experience in Cold weather (nor cal mountains and Nevada high desert) my Silverado Hybrids perform VERY well. I really like the full time 4x4 (auto) feature. In a dry/black ice mix like you get on mountain roads it can save your ***. I have done some driving in deep (7-8 inches) snow and it performs ok, but really that is a function of tires more than Hybrid. They are clearly a light duty truck and won't keep up with a 3/4 or 1 ton.
