Do I need 4 or 5 quarts of new oil after oil change?
 

Mine is TCH 07 and has around 36K miles.

I am confused about the new oil requirement or limit after doing oil change.

The oil change offers I get from toyota dealer is around $20 for conventional oil change "UP TO 4 QUARTS".

Do I need 4 quarts or 5 quarts of new oil ? If i need 5 , I will pay dealership price for the additional oil. My car is 36k mileage. Any other maintenance do I need besides the oil/filter change at every 3 to 5k miles?


I do oil change at dealers although you know they try to scam you with repairs you never need such as complete new breaks, coolent flish blah blah for thousands. So I always am careful about visiting Toyota dealer even when I just go for an oil change. They'd send you an offer for oil filter change and multi point inspection for $20. When you get there, they always come to you to let you know your car is a mess and you need new breaks, new this and that and it will cost you $1200 after $300 in new discount they wanted to give blag blah.

Thanks

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Its more than 4. I always buy the 5qt. jug of 0/20 Mobil 1 when I do mine and use a Toyota filter (I buy the filters by the case). I also buy an additional qt. for reasons mentioned below.

On mine it takes around 4.25 qts. to do a proper chg. I used to mark the jugs (when I cared about stuff like that).

Mine does use oil though. I do an oil change every 7500 miles and over those miles it will use an additional 1.5 qts. on top of what was used for the original oil change.

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4.2 qrts oil
4.5 oil and filter

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Your owners manual is a fountain of information.......

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yeah, but mo fo-s made it so hard to find it in that manual....

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The dealer's oil change offer is 4 quarts for $19. It includes " free multi point inspection". But I have been telling them I don't need free inspection because for $18 oil change, they insist on thousands of dollars worth of repairs. They want you new breaks, coolant flush, new transmission even when your car is just 20k miles or 36k miles. They hate it when i go there with oil change coupons for $18 and tell them i don't need the free inspections . 5 months ago i went for oil change with the coupon, the guy told me just take the free inspection, it is free, no risk, i said ok, so I waited in waiting room watching what they do to my car, they opened the hood, drained the oil and put new oil and I never saw them doing any inspection anywhere. As expected they suggested i spend $over $2k for new breaks, pads, blah blah, told them no. http://www.chicagotoyota.com/specials/service.htm

When I go there, I should tell them add one more quart of oil?

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It's up to you. I wouldn't.

I have over 200,000 miles of oil changing experience on this particular car and I have always done it myself.

EVERY single time 4.25qts. puts the oil up to the full line on the stick. 4.5qts is over the line. I don't give a crap what the manual says, I know what it says and in the case of my car it is absolutely wrong.

Ideally you want the oil to be between the hash marks on the stick. NOT over the top of them.

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I dont do self oil change , don't know how and i live in rented apartment building in a city.
I guess I will just accept the 4 quart oil change for $20 at the dealership with their service offer.
If they say I need total of 5 quarts and that i have to pay extra $8 for the 5th quart, I just tell them 4 is fine. Will refuse the " free multi points inspection" cos they don't do any inspection and they always find something terrible wrong and will ask you to do laundry lists of things done for $2400 $1500 or whatever.

THanks

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That would be fine. Just keep a back up quart somewhere at home or in the car in case you need to "top it off".

Most of that crap they pull at the "stealership" you can ignore.... Case in point: I went in to have a clunking in my front end diagnosed and came out with a bill for over $3000 to replace the steering rack and a bunch of other related crap. After some reading on forums and Googling, Turns out all that was wrong was the grease in the steering shaft has oozed down to the bottom. So, I disconnected the shaft, cycled the shaft up and down a couple times, reconnected it and the problem went away! Idiots....

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As far as the brakes go, unless you are like ukrkoz and think the Camry is a good substitute for a Maserati Ghibli, your brakes will last a LONG time. Had mine off this past weekend and the fronts looked like new with no visible wear and the rear were at 50%. With 160,000 on the car, the front brakes will outlast the car and the rears will make it to 300,000 miles before needing to be replaced. Take ANY verbiage from a dealer as being suspect.

As an aside, ANY competent tech can change the rotors and pads on the Camry when they do need to be replaced for not a lot of money....

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Agreed! The brakes on ours are completely original. I looked at our brakes last tire rotation at 234,000 miles and they looked like they did around 160,000 miles! They will easily make it to 300,000.

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I just went to the dealer for 2 things, received a RECALL for power lock master switch and for oil change. I was told would take few hrs and would call me. I leave and 2 hrs later, i get a call from them telling me they found some problem with brake pads and some other things blah blah costing $1600. Told them NO. My car is only 36K miles.

Tired of these scammers

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I went to pick up my car after the oil change and the guy says I told you what you need right? I replied yes but you need to stop saying this cos I ain't stupid. He shuts up but
He gives me a booklet of what is so terribly wrong with my car.

The Scam report of repairs needed are
Brake Job - Front & Rear ( Replace Pads & Motors for $465 each. that almost $1k.
Fuel injection cleaning (EFI service for $155
PCV Valve replacement for $76
Cabin air filter replacement for $57
AC system cleaning for $57

Total with tax and service charge

$1400.


Now when my car was 30k and 25k miles, they suggested I do the same repairs and service for similar amount, I refused. this time at 36k miles, they are saying the same thing.
BTW they lie about these costly unneccesery repair jobs to anyone who comes for oil change.
Many fall for this and agree to it.
I hope someone sues these scammers!

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You say you are not stupid. So, why would you return to an obvious crook for car service? Why would you even trust them to do an oil change and not cause other damage on purpose? Why would you ever let your car back on their property for any reason?

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I think you are right. I shouldn't be going there.
But I had a Recall appointment for "power lock window master switch" and it was time for oil change and I had oil change coupon for $20. Next time, i will go to local indpenedent shops for oil change.

Now what do you think about their recommendations for : Brake Job - Front & Rear ( Replace Pads & Motors for $465 each. that almost $1k.
Fuel injection cleaning (EFI service for $155
PCV Valve replacement for $76
Cabin air filter replacement for $57
AC system cleaning for $57

Total with tax and service charge

$1400 when I have never felt anything wrong with my car and not specially any problem with brakes? My TCH now is only 36K miles. They told me I need to do the same list when my car was 30k miles several months ago.

Are these really needed?

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I sold my TCH two years ago (replaced with the then brand new Lexus ES hybrid, which has the identical drive train). With 100K miles when I sold the TCH, the original front pads were over 90%, and the rear pads were about 70%. Get another opinion on whether your pads are anywhere near needing replacement. A good independent shop should be able to do a brake job for well under $200/wheel, and possibly half that if the rotors are fine. With that said, the brake fluid should be flushed every two years, and more frequently if you are in a very humid year-round environment.

The cabin air filter for $57 is not too far off. The filter is behind the glove box and is easy to change, once you see how to unlatch the arms that stop the glove box from opening more. The filter itself is about $20-30 (last time I checked).

I don't remember what the service interval is for the PCV valve or fuel injection, but just look it up in your manual. If your engine is running well, starting and stopping smoothly while "hybrid" driving, then I would not consider either service more frequently than the service manual calls out.

If your AC vents don't stink, then don't clean them. If you do get mildew or dead animals in them, then you will know it needs cleaning. You should be opening the hood occasionally and making sure none of the radiators are blocked with leaves or serious dirt build up. One of those is the AC radiator, and that is all that should ever need cleaning other than the vents. A garden hose is often enough to clean it.

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