From the link:

This is flat wrong. The old Insight battery was higher voltage and had higher amp hour capacity. I do believe that the new battery is less expensive...

 

I'm quite sure that a hypermiler driving a 2010 Insight will be able to crush the EPA figures by as much as double however I'd like to know where you get the idea that the Insight will beat the Civic by 10MPG? If what you "Guarantee" is true how do you account for the standardized EPA figures?

 

While a novice hybrid driver might do better than on the Civic, I doubt that there will be any significant advantage to a seasoned hybrid driver. On another site, the salesperson took a Civic Hybrid and an Insight on the same route, and got 56 MPG on the Insight and 58 MPG on the Civic Hybrid. Of course, you have to be assured in such tests that the battery state-of-charge is the same for both cars, as well as tire pressure, etc. Time will tell the story; hence, no need for guarantees or premature claims.

 

Just got my new 2010 Insight on 4/7/09. Traded my 2005 HCH.
First day out after a 100 mile run, mpg was 51. On HCH average recently (with new Michelin tires that killed mpg - another story-) had been 42.

This is the very FIRST day, to which I can only improve. I was using all tricks I know to get max mileage so I think I can hit 58+ no problem.

Plus, the "fan factor" kills they Civic I had. Talking to the Nav just cracks me up!

Happy to respond to any questions I can.

 

John,

When you go 51 MPG was it via the computer or tank to tank fill up.

If you have a chance can you check the mpg computer for accuracy.

Also what type of driving where you doing.

Thanks

alster

 

Congrats on your new purchase. The new Insight sounds like a hoot. I like that they put the traction battery in the floor so you can fold down the rear seat.

I'm going to wait for the database to fill up with data before deciding weather the new Insight gets better MPG than the HCH. My guess is that they will be very close in the long run. Time will tell.

BTW The new Insight will have a huge advantage at first with warmer weather coming up. We need to give this a full year or more before making a final judgment.

 

So far just off of computer. Only gone 100 miles yet.
I drive 100 miles +/- each day round trip to work.
60/40 fwy/city.
To work I got 57 mpg as there are more downhills and could coast.
Home there is a lot of steep grades so average was lessened.
Drove the same as I drove my HCH.

I will post mileage after first fill up.

It is really evident thought that it is easier to attain higher mileage than my 2005 HCH at least on my commute. By how much.... give me a couple of weeks to be sure.

I bought this anticipating at least a +10-15 mpg increase. If not, so what. It was well worth it.

A few things are different. Seems to want to leave auto stop much easier. You really gotta hold the break down. Can't seem to glide as well in auto stop as could before, but still in training.

Vehicle is much quieter, not as much electronic engine whine as before.
Ventilation system is much better. Nav is just awesome. Cupholders suck.
Had to put aftermarket iPod integration in HCH, this comes on EX with Nav.
Folding rear seats are very handy. Bluetooth handsfree--- awesome. Rear view window view--- is different than HCH for sure, just use your mirrors and get over it.

 

I account for that by telling you that those EPA estimates were based on driving the insight2 under NON-ECON mode conditions...and as time progresses, it will be proven HOW MUCH of a difference using the ECON mode makes.

On my Demo....without Econ being used...the EPA estimates are spot on....however with Econ Mode engaged and without even trying very hard...I crush those numbers by as much as 10 to 15 MPG's every time.

 

LOL

Im not worried about being disproven....I drive one everyday....just like I drove the HCH2 every day for over 6 months as well....

Hypermiling in the Insight will show gains on MPG's in the 70's and higher very easily.....

So yes time will tell....but I already personally know the answer....

 

You might be correct. I'm going to wait for the database to prove this out, one way or the other.

Do you have any proof or links that show that the EPA tests were done in non-econ mode?