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MrFixit1328 02-24-2014 04:42 PM

2007 Ford Escape Hybrid and non-Hybrid Engine differences
 
Does anyone know what the differences in a 2.3L engine in a 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid versus one in a non-Hybrid are? I understand that there is a difference in the timing. I'm not sure if the cams are completely different or just the gears. I would also like to know if there are any other differences. Basically, I want to know what I have to do to a 2.3L non-Hybrid engine so it can be used in a Hybrid?

Billyk24 02-24-2014 04:46 PM

Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid and non-Hybrid Engine differences
 
Why are you looking at using a non-hybrid motor to be used in a hybrid vehicle?

MrFixit1328 02-24-2014 04:52 PM

Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid and non-Hybrid Engine differences
 
They are much less expensive and more available.

GaryG 02-24-2014 05:59 PM

Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid and non-Hybrid Engine differences
 

Originally Posted by MrFixit1328 (Post 251445)
Does anyone know what the differences in a 2.3L engine in a 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid versus one in a non-Hybrid are? I understand that there is a difference in the timing. I'm not sure if the cams are completely different or just the gears. I would also like to know if there are any other differences. Basically, I want to know what I have to do to a 2.3L non-Hybrid engine so it can be used in a Hybrid?

Different camshafts, compression ratios (pistons), starting systems etc. The block maybe the same.

Gary

GeorgiaHybrid 02-24-2014 07:45 PM

Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid and non-Hybrid Engine differences
 
Crank, rods, pistons, camshafts are a given. The ECU, fuel injectors, starter (hybrid doesn't have a conventional one) and cylinder head are the other likely possible differences as well.

D-mac 02-26-2014 12:05 PM

Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid and non-Hybrid Engine differences
 
The e-CVT is also a big difference between a hybrid and non-hybrid. You'd probably have to ditch that transmission if you wanted to de-hybrid a FEH.

There have have been people on this site who claimed to have rebuilt the engines of FEHs (even with junkyard hybrid motors). But these days I bet not that many people are going to want to sink that kind of money in to a 8+ year old Escape.

MrFixit1328 02-27-2014 04:25 AM

Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid and non-Hybrid Engine differences
 
I'm not trying to de-hybrid my FEH. I need to either replace the motor or rebuild the one I have. I have been told that it is less expensive to get a used engine. I have not had any luck finding a replacement. If the differences were minimal, I would have bought a used used non-hybrid motor, used the good parts off my old motor and bought anything else that I needed.

econoline 02-27-2014 09:04 AM

Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid and non-Hybrid Engine differences
 

Originally Posted by MrFixit1328 (Post 251494)
I need to either replace the motor or rebuild the one I have.

Just curious about your original engine. How many miles are on it and how did it fail?

MrFixit1328 02-27-2014 10:21 AM

Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid and non-Hybrid Engine differences
 
Just under 142000 miles. Spun a bearing and intake cam has one worn lobe. Oil level was perfect 1-1/2 weeks before the bearing spun. After it happened I checked the level and it was down 3-1/2 quarts. Signs of oil where the engine bolts up to the transmission.

GatorJ 02-27-2014 11:49 AM

Re: 2007 Ford Escape Hybrid and non-Hybrid Engine differences
 

Originally Posted by GeorgiaHybrid (Post 251455)
Crank, rods, pistons, camshafts are a given. The ECU, fuel injectors, starter (hybrid doesn't have a conventional one) and cylinder head are the other likely possible differences as well.





Originally Posted by GaryG (Post 251449)
Different camshafts, compression ratios (pistons), starting systems etc. The block maybe the same.

Gary


So you're saying there's a chance?


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