Factory restriction on the Hybrid system???
#31
Re: Factory restriction on the Hybrid system???
OK, sorry for the rambling, I guess my point is that my empirical experience is that my two cars act very differently, yet they change in personality depending on how I drive them, so I induce from this they somehow "learn" from my immediate driving style.
RayP
#32
Re: Factory restriction on the Hybrid system???
Relearning is continuous - always looking for the lowest idle rpm. If the engine stalls or bucks, (particularly after a highway run - then slow in the neighborhood) it will remember that and adjust for it. Different fuels can affect the performance and must be compensated for (10% ethanol for example). Changes in ambient temp can also affect the settings.
#33
NiMH BAttery lifetime vs cycles
GeoMike,
Its taken me awhile to play with the pic I mentioned about NiMH battery lifetime. So here it is as a .jpg... see if you can open that.
Glad to provide the pedigree if needed.
Its taken me awhile to play with the pic I mentioned about NiMH battery lifetime. So here it is as a .jpg... see if you can open that.
Glad to provide the pedigree if needed.
#34
Re: Factory restriction on the Hybrid system???
Bill,
Thanks for digging that up.. So what denotes a "cycle life"? Is it a full 13% = one life cycle or just one discharge and recharge cycle no matter how complete? Also if I'm reading the chart right an 05,06,07 will have approx. 4000 CL's while an 08,09 only around 2800...is this about right and do partial
discharges save CL's. Also what other factors extend or reduce battery life?
Thanks
Mike
Thanks for digging that up.. So what denotes a "cycle life"? Is it a full 13% = one life cycle or just one discharge and recharge cycle no matter how complete? Also if I'm reading the chart right an 05,06,07 will have approx. 4000 CL's while an 08,09 only around 2800...is this about right and do partial
discharges save CL's. Also what other factors extend or reduce battery life?
Thanks
Mike
#35
Re: Factory restriction on the Hybrid system???
My experience with Pb-acid batteries is that one cycle is based on the amp-hour rating of the battery. I believe that the same will apply to the NiMH battery.
To my knowledge the amp-hour rating of this battery is 5.5. Thus one cycle is 5.5 amp-hours of discharge followed by 5.5 amp-hours of charge.
Given the small 13% band of charge-discharge selected by Ford, a cycle would take about 6 or 7 "13% cycles" across that band to equal one full battery cycle.
With the low end of the depth of discharge at 40% I believe Ford chose the band as they did to produce about an 800 to 1,000 cycle life.
In my experience with Pb-acid batteries the more you work the battery the longer the effective life. Batteries that aren't worked seem to have some chemical reactions within them that shorten their life. So I believe that working these batteries is good for them.
To my knowledge the amp-hour rating of this battery is 5.5. Thus one cycle is 5.5 amp-hours of discharge followed by 5.5 amp-hours of charge.
Given the small 13% band of charge-discharge selected by Ford, a cycle would take about 6 or 7 "13% cycles" across that band to equal one full battery cycle.
With the low end of the depth of discharge at 40% I believe Ford chose the band as they did to produce about an 800 to 1,000 cycle life.
In my experience with Pb-acid batteries the more you work the battery the longer the effective life. Batteries that aren't worked seem to have some chemical reactions within them that shorten their life. So I believe that working these batteries is good for them.
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