Ford to Recall 6,000 Escape Hybrid SUVs
#11
Re: Ford to Recall 6,000 Escape Hybrid SUVs
Originally Posted by Thegreatescape
Without knowing all of the details of the situation, the potential failure under other conditions would make sense. But the recall is addressing the safety aspect of the breakage - and the FMVSS standards have specific performance requirements for the "PARK" position holding the vehicle stationary.
#12
Re: Ford to Recall 6,000 Escape Hybrid SUVs
Originally Posted by TeeSter
I wish they had similar standards for the Parking BRAKE!
#14
Re: Ford to Recall 6,000 Escape Hybrid SUVs
I have to crank mine up as hard as I can to get it to hold on even a 10% grade in a parking lot. I like to leave it ON in neutral to prevent ICE startup (when I am just running in quickly) with the parking brake on but I don't trust it on even the slightest grade.
#15
Re: Ford to Recall 6,000 Escape Hybrid SUVs
Originally Posted by Thegreatescape
No manufacturer identifies and tracks each of the thousands of parts that go into every vehicle. However, knowing when a suspect part was built by a supplier and when that batch was delivered to the asembly plant, they can then normally identify the vehicle build range (and go a little beyond it each way) that would would contain the suspect parts.
I'm guessing that the dealer will be able to identify whether or not the shaft has been properly heat treated by the date code or some other unmistakeable identifying mark on the part. When it comes to a recall there's absolutely no guesswork or judgement call involved!
I'm guessing that the dealer will be able to identify whether or not the shaft has been properly heat treated by the date code or some other unmistakeable identifying mark on the part. When it comes to a recall there's absolutely no guesswork or judgement call involved!
I hope you are right about the part having a distinguishing mark on it. I deal with steel rail all the time - some heat treated and some not. It looks identical except for the markings identifying it as heat treated. Only other way is to do a Brinnel test on it.
As for whether it can break under load.... I don't see where it says it can't. They give the example of it braking while in park, that doesn't eliminate other examples.
Hmmm...As near as I can tell the FEH won't pass that particular test. I've had my parking brake adjusted 3 or 4 times.
#16
Re: Ford to Recall 6,000 Escape Hybrid SUVs
Originally Posted by nitramjr
Never had a problem with my '05 holding on any grade. No problem with the '06 anymore now that I adjusted it.
If you do the same thing what happens in yours?
#17
Re: Ford to Recall 6,000 Escape Hybrid SUVs
Originally Posted by TeeSter
If you do the same thing what happens in yours?
Whether I stop on flat ground or a slope, I stop the car, set the parking brake, release the service brakes (still in gear) and only after I am sure the car isn't going to move do I put it in park. Seriously, both of mine hold no problem. I have even left them in gear and exited the vehicle and had the parking brake hold.
I did have problems with the '06 until I adjusted the brake - I just tightened the cable until it was tight after about 4 or 5 clicks. Prior to that it would go all the way up and wouldn't hold as well as the '05.
#18
Re: Ford to Recall 6,000 Escape Hybrid SUVs
Try this..
Vehicle in D, foot brake on, park brake on, foot brake off, shift into Park.
or
Vehicle in D, foot brake on, park brake on, shift into N, foot brake off, shift into Park.
Ive never had any problems with my park brake on my 07 and I use it all the time - you need to use it like a stick shift park brake here on the hills of San Francisco which are sometimes so steep that the sidewalk is stairs. The FEH tranny doesnt hold the car on a hill in D like a normal automatic. I wonder how they are handling this in the 2008s with the floor brake.
Lots of vehicles have working park brakes but still can lean on that parking pawl which can cause problems. My last vehicle, a 3/4 Suburban was so heavy that if you parked it leaning on the Park pawl as you describe, you couldnt get it out of P at all, You had to get another vehicle to push you from behind to take the weight off the pawl so that the shifter could be moved. After getting stuck once I learned to never shift into P until I was sure that the vehicle was leaning on the brake first.
Tim
Vehicle in D, foot brake on, park brake on, foot brake off, shift into Park.
or
Vehicle in D, foot brake on, park brake on, shift into N, foot brake off, shift into Park.
Ive never had any problems with my park brake on my 07 and I use it all the time - you need to use it like a stick shift park brake here on the hills of San Francisco which are sometimes so steep that the sidewalk is stairs. The FEH tranny doesnt hold the car on a hill in D like a normal automatic. I wonder how they are handling this in the 2008s with the floor brake.
Lots of vehicles have working park brakes but still can lean on that parking pawl which can cause problems. My last vehicle, a 3/4 Suburban was so heavy that if you parked it leaning on the Park pawl as you describe, you couldnt get it out of P at all, You had to get another vehicle to push you from behind to take the weight off the pawl so that the shifter could be moved. After getting stuck once I learned to never shift into P until I was sure that the vehicle was leaning on the brake first.
Tim
#19
Re: Ford to Recall 6,000 Escape Hybrid SUVs
Is the '08 going with a foot parking brake? I am very used to a hand brake (always drove stick in foreign cars) and get the impression that a foot parking brake is somewhat of an afterthought and the reason so many people don't use the parking brake. I would not like a car with one of those as it would not feel right (personal preference).
My parking brake needed adjustment at the first oil change because it would not hold. It does creep an inch or so when I use it on a slope, but seems to hold now as long as I pull it fairly hard. I've complained about its bad feel in other posts (it often makes a clunk when I use it and the travel is not smooth).
Another question: I think that the Mazda Tribute is also made at the same factory. Any of these share the same drive shafts?
Cheers,
rcomeau
My parking brake needed adjustment at the first oil change because it would not hold. It does creep an inch or so when I use it on a slope, but seems to hold now as long as I pull it fairly hard. I've complained about its bad feel in other posts (it often makes a clunk when I use it and the travel is not smooth).
Another question: I think that the Mazda Tribute is also made at the same factory. Any of these share the same drive shafts?
Cheers,
rcomeau
#20
Re: Ford to Recall 6,000 Escape Hybrid SUVs
Originally Posted by rcomeau
Is the '08 going with a foot parking brake?
However, that doesn't necessarily mean the Escape or the Tribute will too. They could have a different console design and therefore be able to keep the hand brake. I think all we can do, is wait and hope.