Plug in Hybrid Conversion
#11
07-05-2007, 05:00 PM
Re: Plug in Hybrid Conversion
I live near Boulder, and in a few days, I'm going to test drive one with the lithium plug-in battery pack. I will report back on my impressions. The lithium battery pack fits in the same form as the stock battery. The stock battery is totally removed, so it is an "invisible" conversion. Same shape, but adds about 100 pounds vs. the original, but will have 15x to 20x the output.
I just talked to them last week. The vehicle to grid part is still on the drawing board... not available to purchase yet. Also talking at length with them, it is not their #1 goal to make this an EV car. It is their hope to boost your MPG to 50-75 MPG no matter how fast you drive, by having the battery and motor contribute power for all your miles, not just the EV miles.
I just talked to them last week. The vehicle to grid part is still on the drawing board... not available to purchase yet. Also talking at length with them, it is not their #1 goal to make this an EV car. It is their hope to boost your MPG to 50-75 MPG no matter how fast you drive, by having the battery and motor contribute power for all your miles, not just the EV miles.
#12
07-05-2007, 05:35 PM
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Southwestern Pa
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Re: Plug in Hybrid Conversion
I talke dto a company in Canada who makes a piggyback pack. The pack sits behind the rear seat and connects to the existing battery pack through an isolation diode.
You charge the battery overnight using a plug in charger. Then, you have enough power to drive about 15 miles in EV mode. I do not know how or if they hold the FEH in EV mode.
They are only selling kits to Ford and the State of California at this time.
You charge the battery overnight using a plug in charger. Then, you have enough power to drive about 15 miles in EV mode. I do not know how or if they hold the FEH in EV mode.
They are only selling kits to Ford and the State of California at this time.
This would be Hymotion. The address:
51 Ritin Lane
Unit #5
Concord Ontario
Canada L4K 4E1
P: 519-489-0471
F: 519-249-0942
Web link: http://www.hymotion.com/products.htm
The weblink for the Escape conversion pack is:
http://www.hymotion.com/pdf/Specs_PHEV_L12.pdf
The FAQ page weblink: http://www.hymotion.com/faq.htm
Hymotion uses Nanophosphate™ lithium ion batteries. This type of lithium ion battery is manufactured by A123 Systems which recently acquired the Hymotion company. The weblink for A123 Systems is http://www.a123systems.com/newsite/index.php#
The Nanophosphate lithium ion battery is what GM is using during development of their plug in vehicle(s). Weblink: http://www.a123systems.com/newsite/i...ws/news070104/
Interesting reading.
#13
07-05-2007, 05:53 PM
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Re: Plug in Hybrid Conversion
The warranty problem lies with the battery company, A123 Systems, and not with Hybrids Plus. A123 will not warranty the individual cells, so how can Hybrids Plus warranty a pack with 1000+ cells?
Hybrids Plus could, and actually might warranty their BMS, Battery Management System, the software, sensors, and controllers, but their hands are tied when it comes to the battery cells.
This is considered an "experimental venture".
The cells were not specifically designed for automotive use, but this area looks promising.
Hybrids Plus could, and actually might warranty their BMS, Battery Management System, the software, sensors, and controllers, but their hands are tied when it comes to the battery cells.
This is considered an "experimental venture".
The cells were not specifically designed for automotive use, but this area looks promising.
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