Hybrid Use Tax! On News Last Night.
#11
Re: Hybrid Use Tax! On News Last Night.
Originally Posted by xcel
___If we were on Ethanol, Bio, whatever, or at least drove as fuel efficient cars as the Europeans because of $4.00 - $6.00/gallon in fuel taxes,
#12
Re: Hybrid Use Tax! On News Last Night.
Hi ElanC:
___$5.00 was yesterdays news. There was a GH member from Europe who posted just 3 or 4 weeks ago that they were paying $7.00 per. The $1.45 for refined gasoline (changes daily) is ~ equivalent as it is here. The rest are taxes.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___$5.00 was yesterdays news. There was a GH member from Europe who posted just 3 or 4 weeks ago that they were paying $7.00 per. The $1.45 for refined gasoline (changes daily) is ~ equivalent as it is here. The rest are taxes.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
#13
Re: Hybrid Use Tax! On News Last Night.
Originally Posted by xcel
Hi ElanC:
___$5.00 was yesterdays news. There was a GH member from Europe who posted just 3 or 4 weeks ago that they were paying $7.00 per. The $1.45 for refined gasoline (changes daily) is ~ equivalent as it is here. The rest are taxes.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___$5.00 was yesterdays news. There was a GH member from Europe who posted just 3 or 4 weeks ago that they were paying $7.00 per. The $1.45 for refined gasoline (changes daily) is ~ equivalent as it is here. The rest are taxes.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
http://www.findcheappetrol.com/
85 pence per liter is about $5.58 per US gallon.
#14
Re: Hybrid Use Tax! On News Last Night.
Hi ElanC:
___The absolute cheapest price in all England at $5.58/gallon is $4.13 + tax per gallon w/ October delivery sitting at ~ $1.45 on the MERC and the spot at ~ $1.85 this week. Care to find the cheapest gas prices for France, Germany, Switzerland, and Denmark to name just a few other European countries? Denmark was > $7.00in some locales not 2-1/2 months ago after a google search.
Elliot Lee’s Blog
Oct. 8 - Germany - $6.30 per gallon
Oct. 10 - Austria - $6.90 per gallon
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___The absolute cheapest price in all England at $5.58/gallon is $4.13 + tax per gallon w/ October delivery sitting at ~ $1.45 on the MERC and the spot at ~ $1.85 this week. Care to find the cheapest gas prices for France, Germany, Switzerland, and Denmark to name just a few other European countries? Denmark was > $7.00in some locales not 2-1/2 months ago after a google search.
Elliot Lee’s Blog
Oct. 8 - Germany - $6.30 per gallon
Oct. 10 - Austria - $6.90 per gallon
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
Last edited by xcel; 11-26-2005 at 02:29 PM.
#15
Re: Hybrid Use Tax! On News Last Night.
Originally Posted by xcel
Hi ElanC:
___The absolute cheapest price in all England at $5.58/gallon is $4.13 + tax per gallon w/ October delivery sitting at ~ $1.45 on the MERC and the spot at ~ $1.85 this week. Care to find the cheapest gas prices for France, Germany, Switzerland, and Denmark to name just a few other European countries? Denmark was > $7.00in some locales not 2-1/2 months ago after a google search.
Elliot Lee’s Blog
Oct. 8 - Germany - $6.30 per gallon
Oct. 10 - Austria - $6.90 per gallon
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___The absolute cheapest price in all England at $5.58/gallon is $4.13 + tax per gallon w/ October delivery sitting at ~ $1.45 on the MERC and the spot at ~ $1.85 this week. Care to find the cheapest gas prices for France, Germany, Switzerland, and Denmark to name just a few other European countries? Denmark was > $7.00in some locales not 2-1/2 months ago after a google search.
Elliot Lee’s Blog
Oct. 8 - Germany - $6.30 per gallon
Oct. 10 - Austria - $6.90 per gallon
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
I can believe that prices briefly got close to $7 at the same time they hit about $3 here. But that was six weeks ago. Gas prices have dropped about 70 cents per gallon in the U.S. since then which is about 25%. They have dropped back similarly in Europe.
The following web page shows retail prices across Europe as of October.
http://www.aaroadwatch.ie/eupetrolprices/
Clearly Britain was in the top tier of prices in Europe. Only the Netherlands and Northern Ireland were higher. Several countries like Greece, Spain, Switzerland, had substantially lower prices.
#16
Re: Hybrid Use Tax! On News Last Night.
Hi ElanC:
___A few items … The price on the MERC includes all the refined gasoline Europe ships to the US because they cannot consume it themselves due to the high % of diesels on their highways and byways. The spot is what the average price pre-tax is to the gas station/retailer as also posted above.
___As for $7.00 per, it was not only posted here although I cannot find it at the moment, it has been posted all over the net! I just gave you links to 2 individuals residing in Europe who say they were paying $6.30 and $6.90 in Germany/Austria just 6 weeks ago respectively. 6 + weeks ago I was paying $2.79. What more do you want? As stated previously, the $4.00 - $6.00 in taxes on a gallon of gasoline/diesel the European’s pay is real. What you think is and or isn’t appears to be quite different then those that have to fill up in London proper from the Euro Gas price page you linked earlier. The best I have heard in the states was somewhere in OK. at $1.85 but I am paying $2.09 as of 3 days ago myself
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___A few items … The price on the MERC includes all the refined gasoline Europe ships to the US because they cannot consume it themselves due to the high % of diesels on their highways and byways. The spot is what the average price pre-tax is to the gas station/retailer as also posted above.
___As for $7.00 per, it was not only posted here although I cannot find it at the moment, it has been posted all over the net! I just gave you links to 2 individuals residing in Europe who say they were paying $6.30 and $6.90 in Germany/Austria just 6 weeks ago respectively. 6 + weeks ago I was paying $2.79. What more do you want? As stated previously, the $4.00 - $6.00 in taxes on a gallon of gasoline/diesel the European’s pay is real. What you think is and or isn’t appears to be quite different then those that have to fill up in London proper from the Euro Gas price page you linked earlier. The best I have heard in the states was somewhere in OK. at $1.85 but I am paying $2.09 as of 3 days ago myself
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
#17
Re: Hybrid Use Tax! On News Last Night.
Originally Posted by xcel
Hi ElanC:
...What more do you want?...
...What more do you want?...
Nah, forget it. Wayne, you're right. You're always right.
#18
Re: Hybrid Use Tax! On News Last Night.
Hi ElanC:
___Sometimes but not this time! I am so glad we don’t have $4.00 + taxes like they do in Europe
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Sometimes but not this time! I am so glad we don’t have $4.00 + taxes like they do in Europe
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
#19
Re: Hybrid Use Tax! On News Last Night.
That was quite a rant, Wayne
Tax petrol until SUV use declines to 10% or so, and Joe American views a family car as 40 MPG minimum. Send all the extra money to clean energy dev, NOT TO THE GENERAL FUND.
That will work; as far as I can tell, nothing else will.
Oh yeah .. to be on topic a bit:
I have seen conflicting opinions whether car weight is proportional to road wear. Anybody have factual data ?
Schwa's point was spot on: Why pick on hybrids, and not every car that gets over 15 MPG ? The revenue collectors have gotten used to a large mix of gas guzzlers in the vehicle mix. If people drive less, or change car choices to *anything* that is more FE than what they currently have, tax receipts will decline. America's roads have a backlog of needed repairs, which is what really have the collectors worried. They want more money NOW, not less -- reasons be ****ed.
Where are they going to get more money ? From SUV owners who tend to vote repubican, or hybrid owners, who tend not to ?
Tax petrol until SUV use declines to 10% or so, and Joe American views a family car as 40 MPG minimum. Send all the extra money to clean energy dev, NOT TO THE GENERAL FUND.
That will work; as far as I can tell, nothing else will.
Oh yeah .. to be on topic a bit:
I have seen conflicting opinions whether car weight is proportional to road wear. Anybody have factual data ?
Schwa's point was spot on: Why pick on hybrids, and not every car that gets over 15 MPG ? The revenue collectors have gotten used to a large mix of gas guzzlers in the vehicle mix. If people drive less, or change car choices to *anything* that is more FE than what they currently have, tax receipts will decline. America's roads have a backlog of needed repairs, which is what really have the collectors worried. They want more money NOW, not less -- reasons be ****ed.
Where are they going to get more money ? From SUV owners who tend to vote repubican, or hybrid owners, who tend not to ?
Last edited by EricGo; 11-27-2005 at 07:05 AM.