EG059-06 M.I.L. ON DTC P0AE2, INFORMATION CODE 773
#1
EG059-06 M.I.L. ON DTC P0AE2, INFORMATION CODE 773
Hmmmm. I wonder if this will warrant a recall?
If your TCH was manufactured in Japan and has a VIN lower than JTNBB46K#7#019024 this may apply to you.
See attached.
If your TCH was manufactured in Japan and has a VIN lower than JTNBB46K#7#019024 this may apply to you.
See attached.
#3
Re: EG059-06 M.I.L. ON DTC P0AE2, INFORMATION CODE 773
Originally Posted by abward
Can someone explain what this one means?
DTC = (I think) Diagnostic Trouble/Test Code
So the car pukes, the Malfunction Indicator latches and a diag code gets dumped into the system log.
If that code = P0AE2 this TSR applies.
Now the question (in my mind) is this only a corrective TSB or will they do a recall as preventative?
Last edited by schmidtj; 11-16-2006 at 07:08 AM.
#7
Re: EG059-06 M.I.L. ON DTC P0AE2, INFORMATION CODE 773
Originally Posted by Loonbeam
Just curious, where do you find these TSBs?
#8
Re: EG059-06 M.I.L. ON DTC P0AE2, INFORMATION CODE 773
Nash, I am in the same boat but never have seen any car mfg replace any part (especially this expensive one) before it goes bad. Almost makes you want to go on a nite cruise thru the desert in the middle of the nite at 110 degree temps, you would be fried by the time they found you lol. If just a MIL no big problem, but if the car could puke, it is a big problem.
#9
Re: EG059-06 M.I.L. ON DTC P0AE2, INFORMATION CODE 773
This is a great website, and this is great information. Schmidtj, thanks for posting this incredibly useful stuff. I've started a folder where I stash a copy of pertaintant TSB's.
#10
Re: EG059-06 M.I.L. ON DTC P0AE2, INFORMATION CODE 773
schmidtj — Thanks for posting this important TSB. Please continue to do so for all relevant TSBs for the TCH. Thanks!
Looking at the simplified circuit diagrams (the only ones available) in the Repair Manual, I see that the Hybrid Battery Precharge Contactor Circuit uses a solid-state (MOSFET) switch to pre-charge the large high-voltage capacitors inside the MGs' dc boost converter and ac inverter electronics in the engine compartment (above the MGs and planetary gear case). This is done to prevent arcing and consequent deterioration of the hybrid battery relay contacts due to the high peak charging current that would otherwise flow from the battery into the capacitors at switch-on. The MOSFET allows these capacitors to charge slowly through a resistor, thus reducing the peak charging current, before the main relay contacts close. [This happens during the 1-second "pause" just before the ICE starts ~10 seconds after switch-on.] If the pre-charge circuit fails in the "stuck closed" condition, as indicated in the TSB, this charging resistor would always be switched into the circuit, but since the relay in the other wire would still "open" when the vehicle is switched "off," no electrical damage would occur, and I think it would be quite safe to continue to drive the car until you can get the dc/dc Converter Assembly replaced, as per the TSB. This unit is in the trunk, behind (i.e., towards the front of the car relative to) the NiMH battery.
nash and skywagon — In the failed condition, the orange high-voltage wires from the battery to the engine compartment would not be completely isolated from high voltage when the car is "off," and this could be a potential hazard for service personnel or for rescue workers at an accident. So, it is important to have the unit replaced. I would think that it would be best to have it done in the near future, at one's convenience, rather than wait for a possible failure to occur at a later, less convenient, time.
Stan
Looking at the simplified circuit diagrams (the only ones available) in the Repair Manual, I see that the Hybrid Battery Precharge Contactor Circuit uses a solid-state (MOSFET) switch to pre-charge the large high-voltage capacitors inside the MGs' dc boost converter and ac inverter electronics in the engine compartment (above the MGs and planetary gear case). This is done to prevent arcing and consequent deterioration of the hybrid battery relay contacts due to the high peak charging current that would otherwise flow from the battery into the capacitors at switch-on. The MOSFET allows these capacitors to charge slowly through a resistor, thus reducing the peak charging current, before the main relay contacts close. [This happens during the 1-second "pause" just before the ICE starts ~10 seconds after switch-on.] If the pre-charge circuit fails in the "stuck closed" condition, as indicated in the TSB, this charging resistor would always be switched into the circuit, but since the relay in the other wire would still "open" when the vehicle is switched "off," no electrical damage would occur, and I think it would be quite safe to continue to drive the car until you can get the dc/dc Converter Assembly replaced, as per the TSB. This unit is in the trunk, behind (i.e., towards the front of the car relative to) the NiMH battery.
nash and skywagon — In the failed condition, the orange high-voltage wires from the battery to the engine compartment would not be completely isolated from high voltage when the car is "off," and this could be a potential hazard for service personnel or for rescue workers at an accident. So, it is important to have the unit replaced. I would think that it would be best to have it done in the near future, at one's convenience, rather than wait for a possible failure to occur at a later, less convenient, time.
Stan