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Old 09-27-2006, 07:25 PM
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I used 0W-20 Mobil 1 at my first oil change.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:39 PM
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On my first change 1500 mi. used full synthetic with 30 as the last number. if you are not going to keep your ride for the long haul use the thin crap but if you plane on keeping it for the long haul put in the heavier oil. Note, I did not loose nothing in MPG, I don't know what it came with for oil. I have had over 10 Lexus vehicals and used the 30 oil in them all without a hitch. futhermore they cannot prove what weight oil is in the SOB. I hate oil threads as it always comes to whos oil is better.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nash
I had my first service at 5K miles. I talked to the dealer's mechanic about not wanting the oil over the full mark and he commented he normally puts in 4 and 2/10th quarts of 5w-30 in the Camry Hybrid. They did not have 5W-20 oil at the dealer (Chula Vista Toyota)!?! I asked him to just put in 4 quarts and he agreed.
Hmmm, the manual calls for 3.8 quarts (w/filter). Did I miss something elsewhere in the forum that specifies either 4 or 4.2 quarts??

 
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:13 PM
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Hmmm, the manual calls for 3.8 quarts (w/filter). Did I miss something elsewhere in the forum that specifies either 4 or 4.2 quarts??

I think you are referring to a different metric unit, the Oil quantity is 4.5 US qts with oil filter changed for the 2007 TCH and can be found in your owner's manual at page 372 if I remember well...
 

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Old 09-27-2006, 08:47 PM
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Nash,

FWIW, here's my take. The ICE in the Hybrid has a very different duty profile than a conventional ICE. The conventional engine starts cold, comes up to operating temperature and stays there until the engine shuts down at the end of the drive. The ICE in a hybrid vehicle is constantly cycling; it has many more starts per 1,000 miles than a conventional ICE, and more temp variation.

Thus it makes sense to me that the recommended oil in the hybrid is a lower viscosity (0/5W-20), because the oil needs to circulate quickly through the engine as the oil pump cycles on and off. Also, lower viscosity means less fluid friction on moving surfaces - read higher MPG.

Arguably, an xW-30 will give marginally better protection in very hot weather, which can degrade lighter oils. But I would not say categorically that a higher viscosity oil provides better protection to an IC engine that is cycling constantly. If you are really concerned about hot-weather protection, I recommend you consider 0W-20 in the cooler months and 5W-30 in the warmer months.
 
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by agnosto
I think you are referring to a different metric unit, the Oil quantity is 4.5 US qts with oil filter canged for the 2007 TCH and can be found in your owner's manual at page 372 if I remember well...
Ah yes - I just double checked this morning and the 3.8 was Imperial quarts. Thanks!
 
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Old 09-28-2006, 07:28 AM
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4 qts is perfect, leaves it a bit below the full mark.
 
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Old 09-28-2006, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wcmack
Nash,

FWIW, here's my take. The ICE in the Hybrid has a very different duty profile than a conventional ICE. The conventional engine starts cold, comes up to operating temperature and stays there until the engine shuts down at the end of the drive. The ICE in a hybrid vehicle is constantly cycling; it has many more starts per 1,000 miles than a conventional ICE, and more temp variation.

Thus it makes sense to me that the recommended oil in the hybrid is a lower viscosity (0/5W-20), because the oil needs to circulate quickly through the engine as the oil pump cycles on and off. Also, lower viscosity means less fluid friction on moving surfaces - read higher MPG.

Arguably, an xW-30 will give marginally better protection in very hot weather, which can degrade lighter oils. But I would not say categorically that a higher viscosity oil provides better protection to an IC engine that is cycling constantly. If you are really concerned about hot-weather protection, I recommend you consider 0W-20 in the cooler months and 5W-30 in the warmer months.
Hi Bill, all good points you have stated, full synthetics have come a long way in the last few years and with pour point of most of them being at -60 to -70 below zero, ciculation when cold is not a big factor, but too thin of an oil with the heat of these newer engines certainly is. Just be sure you use oil marked 505.01 for fixed drain intervals, and 506.01 or 507.00 for extended drains. take care! SK
 
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Old 12-21-2007, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nash
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I asked the dealer to check the alignment as the TCH wanders a bit. I suspect it is mostly the tires, but wanted to be sure the alignment was not contributing. My TCH will not track straight for more than 10 or 15 seconds before wandering off to one lane ...The alignment was off slightly... The car tracks better now, but still tends to wander after a while...
Not an expert, but, I believe if your car was out of alignment, you might have caused uneven wear on the tires. Once the car is put into proper alignment, the car can still drift due to the uneven tire wear. At least that is what a tire guy told me when an alignment didn't correct the drift. New tires did, so I guess he was right.
I know this is an old thread, but thought I'd share the info.
 
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