Rear Wind Defroster Very Unimpressive
#1
Rear Wind Defroster Very Unimpressive
Ok, so one of the few complaints I have with my TCH is that the rear window defroster stinks.
I don't know if there's a problem with mine, or if its everyone's. Today, it was fogged up wtih mist--just normal fall morning stuff. I took a solid 12 minutes for the window to clear. For most of that time, I couldn't see a thing.
Now, I'm coming from a bunch of GM vehicles. Most of them had a lot of problems, but the rear window defrosters are great. They have a zone system that clears a middle portion first (in under a minute easily) so you can see something out back there, and in 5 minutes everything is pretty much gone. Even winter frost cleared quickly. This kind of frost today would have taken probably 2 minutes, max, for the whole rear window.
So this TCH performance is disappointing and rather annoying.
I don't know if there's a problem with mine, or if its everyone's. Today, it was fogged up wtih mist--just normal fall morning stuff. I took a solid 12 minutes for the window to clear. For most of that time, I couldn't see a thing.
Now, I'm coming from a bunch of GM vehicles. Most of them had a lot of problems, but the rear window defrosters are great. They have a zone system that clears a middle portion first (in under a minute easily) so you can see something out back there, and in 5 minutes everything is pretty much gone. Even winter frost cleared quickly. This kind of frost today would have taken probably 2 minutes, max, for the whole rear window.
So this TCH performance is disappointing and rather annoying.
#2
Re: Rear Wind Defroster Very Unimpressive
No practical experience with the TCH as mine is still not delivered - but I had to comment on the post..
I'm not so sure that there is truly a Zoned system (I have vehicles from GM, Chrysler and Ford - currently) .... I think it's more a matter of the resistive film acting like any other resistor in which the resistance is always highest at the mid-point (center) between the two conductors... All of my vehicles clear the center of the glass first.
Electrical engineeers - please feel free to tear it up - it's only my theory..
On the TCH system - I know from what I've ready - all electrical systems are very tightly controlled (as they should be) so as to draw minimal current from the system. Where's the high powered fog lights on the TCH? It may be that this miserly controll methodology has impacted the rear window defroster.. I'm really curious how well the heated seats and mirrors work gievn that I'm in Minneapolis, MN.
I'm not so sure that there is truly a Zoned system (I have vehicles from GM, Chrysler and Ford - currently) .... I think it's more a matter of the resistive film acting like any other resistor in which the resistance is always highest at the mid-point (center) between the two conductors... All of my vehicles clear the center of the glass first.
Electrical engineeers - please feel free to tear it up - it's only my theory..
On the TCH system - I know from what I've ready - all electrical systems are very tightly controlled (as they should be) so as to draw minimal current from the system. Where's the high powered fog lights on the TCH? It may be that this miserly controll methodology has impacted the rear window defroster.. I'm really curious how well the heated seats and mirrors work gievn that I'm in Minneapolis, MN.
#3
Re: Rear Wind Defroster Very Unimpressive
My '99 VW Passat had the slowest rear window defroster of any car I've ever owned or can recall being in, so my bias will be apparent. I've used the TCH rear window defrosters on several mornings so far and I think it did quite well--just a few minutes. I'm just outside DC, so maybe the dew isn't as dense as in some places.
#4
Re: Rear Wind Defroster Very Unimpressive
Originally Posted by MFLetou
Ok, so one of the few complaints I have with my TCH is that the rear window defroster stinks.
I don't know if there's a problem with mine, or if its everyone's. Today, it was fogged up wtih mist--just normal fall morning stuff. I took a solid 12 minutes for the window to clear. For most of that time, I couldn't see a thing.
Now, I'm coming from a bunch of GM vehicles. Most of them had a lot of problems, but the rear window defrosters are great. They have a zone system that clears a middle portion first (in under a minute easily) so you can see something out back there, and in 5 minutes everything is pretty much gone. Even winter frost cleared quickly. This kind of frost today would have taken probably 2 minutes, max, for the whole rear window.
So this TCH performance is disappointing and rather annoying.
I don't know if there's a problem with mine, or if its everyone's. Today, it was fogged up wtih mist--just normal fall morning stuff. I took a solid 12 minutes for the window to clear. For most of that time, I couldn't see a thing.
Now, I'm coming from a bunch of GM vehicles. Most of them had a lot of problems, but the rear window defrosters are great. They have a zone system that clears a middle portion first (in under a minute easily) so you can see something out back there, and in 5 minutes everything is pretty much gone. Even winter frost cleared quickly. This kind of frost today would have taken probably 2 minutes, max, for the whole rear window.
So this TCH performance is disappointing and rather annoying.
#5
Re: Rear Wind Defroster Very Unimpressive
I have the opposite experince. My rear-window defogger works very quickly, as did the front window defogger. I live/work in a coastal environment, so I have lots of foggy windows due to the humidity. The TCH has been a lot better than my 99CaddySTS or 97Paseo were.
#6
Re: Rear Wind Defroster Very Unimpressive
Originally Posted by MFLetou
Ok, so one of the few complaints I have with my TCH is that the rear window defroster stinks.
The XLE has no ECO mode so I think it's "just the nature of the beasts".
The XLE did a good job of clearing the side-view mirrors of the frost.
J
#7
Re: Rear Wind Defroster Very Unimpressive
Interesting.
No ECO for me (I never use it). BMgoodman, I'm in Ashburn VA and drive to DC today. I started the defog in my driveway, and it wasn't clear until past the Dulles GreeDway interchange...
No ECO for me (I never use it). BMgoodman, I'm in Ashburn VA and drive to DC today. I started the defog in my driveway, and it wasn't clear until past the Dulles GreeDway interchange...
#8
Re: Rear Wind Defroster Very Unimpressive
"it wasn't clear until past the Dulles GreeDway interchange..."
Matt, you have my vote for the best misspelling of the year! I KNEW the the Beltway was fully of greedy b**tards!!!
Matt, you have my vote for the best misspelling of the year! I KNEW the the Beltway was fully of greedy b**tards!!!
#10
Re: Rear Wind Defroster Very Unimpressive
Originally Posted by wallpad
It's going to be a while before I have a chance to test this, here in Austin, TX. :-)