Who Uses the "B" Setting on the Shift Lever??
#12
Re: Who Uses the "B" Setting on the Shift Lever??
I use B position regularly, even just slowing down at intersections or coming to a stop. I don't think B mode works as an electrical retarding brake as i use on the 250 ton off road trucks i operate, rather its on engine brake, using the engine as an air pump to slow forward progress and saving your brake pads and rotors.
#13
Re: Who Uses the "B" Setting on the Shift Lever??
Joe,
I'm not sure. I thought that there were problems running the generator at high speed, so the ICE had to be used. I know it was covered in a different thread a couple of months ago.
I'm not sure. I thought that there were problems running the generator at high speed, so the ICE had to be used. I know it was covered in a different thread a couple of months ago.
#14
Re: Who Uses the "B" Setting on the Shift Lever??
Originally Posted by certz656
I use B position regularly, even just slowing down at intersections or coming to a stop. I don't think B mode works as an electrical retarding brake as i use on the 250 ton off road trucks i operate, rather its on engine brake, using the engine as an air pump to slow forward progress and saving your brake pads and rotors.
Originally Posted by WVGasGuy
I don't use "B". Are you sure it actually uses the engine or does it possibly add some "torgue" to the generator to increase resistance and thus increase generation? I thought someone had shown graphs with increased generation during B mode operation. I don't know but am curious.
I prefer to create power on long grades and have "rode" my brake pedal, probably annoying to the person behind me, but still justified since I would have broken the speed limit significantly if I had not.
I prefer to create power on long grades and have "rode" my brake pedal, probably annoying to the person behind me, but still justified since I would have broken the speed limit significantly if I had not.
Last edited by Droid13; 09-11-2006 at 09:28 AM.
#15
Re: Who Uses the "B" Setting on the Shift Lever??
I use the "B" setting quite often.
Living atop a hill in central Seattle, I am always heading down a steep hill on the way to the freeway or to the city's core. And the "B" setting really helps.
Living atop a hill in central Seattle, I am always heading down a steep hill on the way to the freeway or to the city's core. And the "B" setting really helps.
#16
Re: Who Uses the "B" Setting on the Shift Lever??
Originally Posted by Timberwolf
I use the "B" setting quite often.
Living atop a hill in central Seattle, I am always heading down a steep hill on the way to the freeway or to the city's core. And the "B" setting really helps.
Living atop a hill in central Seattle, I am always heading down a steep hill on the way to the freeway or to the city's core. And the "B" setting really helps.
The all wheel drive HSD cousins get to do regen braking on all 4 wheels, they probably have more leeway for regen down the steeper hills then the TCH.
Last edited by Droid13; 09-11-2006 at 09:58 AM.
#17
Re: Who Uses the "B" Setting on the Shift Lever??
I often use B in rush hour traffic to hold back my speed while creeping along under 20mph going downhill. Oddly the ICE stays off in B mode unless my speed increases beyond 20 MPH or so.
#18
Re: Who Uses the "B" Setting on the Shift Lever??
Just picked up my (my wifes, mostly) TCH Sat. 100 miles on it now, so new to this. I too was wondering how "B" worked. Questions:
1) does anyone know if the ICE is actually running or is it just really an air pump to add to the drag?
2) The Manual states (not in front of me now) that one should not operate in "B" for long periods because this will reduce mileage, which kind of indicates it is running?
3) If this is so one might want to operate in "B" at the start of a cold day to heat the engine as ICE are a lot more efficient (stated by Ed Wallace, Radio Car Guy who was testing the Lexus Hybrid) when they are warm?
Suggestion to Toyota that they need a section in the manual for all of us curious teck-o nuts
1) does anyone know if the ICE is actually running or is it just really an air pump to add to the drag?
2) The Manual states (not in front of me now) that one should not operate in "B" for long periods because this will reduce mileage, which kind of indicates it is running?
3) If this is so one might want to operate in "B" at the start of a cold day to heat the engine as ICE are a lot more efficient (stated by Ed Wallace, Radio Car Guy who was testing the Lexus Hybrid) when they are warm?
Suggestion to Toyota that they need a section in the manual for all of us curious teck-o nuts
#19
Re: Who Uses the "B" Setting on the Shift Lever??
Originally Posted by 3cpo
... If this is so one might want to operate in "B" at the start of a cold day to heat the engine as ICE are a lot more efficient...
My TCH goes from start to operating temperature in about a city block. My wife's XLE-V6 takes 2+ miles.
From what I remember the Prius can store coolant at operating temperature for a week even in near zero temperatures. I'll assume the TCH can do the same.
Gotta love it.
J
#20
Re: Who Uses the "B" Setting on the Shift Lever??
Originally Posted by 3cpo
Just picked up my (my wifes, mostly) TCH Sat. 100 miles on it now, so new to this. I too was wondering how "B" worked. Questions:
1) does anyone know if the ICE is actually running or is it just really an air pump to add to the drag?
2) The Manual states (not in front of me now) that one should not operate in "B" for long periods because this will reduce mileage, which kind of indicates it is running?
1) does anyone know if the ICE is actually running or is it just really an air pump to add to the drag?
2) The Manual states (not in front of me now) that one should not operate in "B" for long periods because this will reduce mileage, which kind of indicates it is running?
1) Reduced coasting meaning more need to accelerate back to speed.
2) Possible reduced regen braking, meaning more need to run generator.