Re: Brakes grabby when wet?
Must be a new proceedure for the 08. My instructions were out of the Ford service manual.
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Re: Brakes grabby when wet?
Originally Posted by GatorJ
(Post 134941)
Do you have a point of reference for this opinion? Have you changed your pads?
It's not my opinion, it's from the Ford Engineer who developed Fords regenerative breaking system. Furthermore, after talking to a Prius tech the other day, in all likelyhood, the brake pads weren't the cause, but they were part of the solution. They're seeing in Prius' that the brake system actually gets a layer of grime on them, from not being used, which increases the grabbyness in wet conditions, and that once cleaned, they're far less grabby (Though still grabby.) What likely happened was the new brake pads were better at cleaning the grime that had accumulated off, so they're operating with a clean, and hence, less grabby braking system. The suggestion was made that you either do some hard braking to get the brakes to self-clean, or (I didn't like this), apply the parking brake slightly as you coasted down a hill (Though once again, that's for the Prius), to clean them off. This seems to a problem with all the HSD vehicles, since they hardly use the real brakes. |
Re: Brakes grabby when wet?
The parking brake in the Ford Escape Hybrid is separate from the 4 disc brakes. Applying the parking brake in motion will have zero effect on your 4 primary disc brakes, wet, dirty, or otherwise.
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Re: Brakes grabby when wet?
Originally Posted by gpsman1
(Post 135435)
The parking brake in the Ford Escape Hybrid is separate from the 4 disc brakes. Applying the parking brake in motion will have zero effect on your 4 primary disc brakes, wet, dirty, or otherwise.
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Re: Brakes grabby when wet?
Originally Posted by Pravus Prime
(Post 135432)
It's not my opinion, it's from the Ford Engineer who developed Fords regenerative breaking system.
Furthermore, after talking to a Prius tech the other day, in all likelyhood, the brake pads weren't the cause, but they were part of the solution. They're seeing in Prius' that the brake system actually gets a layer of grime on them, from not being used, which increases the grabbyness in wet conditions, and that once cleaned, they're far less grabby (Though still grabby.) What likely happened was the new brake pads were better at cleaning the grime that had accumulated off, so they're operating with a clean, and hence, less grabby braking system. The suggestion was made that you either do some hard braking to get the brakes to self-clean, or (I didn't like this), apply the parking brake slightly as you coasted down a hill (Though once again, that's for the Prius), to clean them off. This seems to a problem with all the HSD vehicles, since they hardly use the real brakes. |
Re: Brakes grabby when wet?
A change in pad coefficient of friction may have undesirable effects at higher speeds and in dry conditions. TeeSter has the best solution. You NEED to clean the rust of periodically anyway!
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Re: Brakes grabby when wet?
Originally Posted by TeeSter
(Post 135439)
I just shift the thing into "N" coming to the next intersection.... no regen, all friction brakes for that ONE stop and that usually takes care of it.
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Re: Brakes grabby when wet?
Originally Posted by Mark E Smith
(Post 135480)
A change in pad coefficient of friction may have undesirable effects at higher speeds
I don't think that would be the case at all. The pads that Gator uses have nothing but positive effects on the braking effect (I know, I have used them myself). ~John |
Re: Brakes grabby when wet?
Originally Posted by Mark E Smith
(Post 135480)
A change in pad coefficient of friction may have undesirable effects at higher speeds and in dry conditions.
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Re: Brakes grabby when wet?
Originally Posted by GatorJ
(Post 136894)
You mean like shorter stopping distances and more fade resistant?
In order to get less lurch you'd decrease the coefficient of friction... not something I'd want to do with my brakes in any case. I think he'd just trying to say you might not get the effect you are looking for. We are still talking about gettting rid of a lurch when its wet... not increasing braking power aren't we? |
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