Should I even bother with a hybrid??
#31
Re: Should I even bother with a hybrid??
I see about a $3,000 difference between my used FEH and a Non-Hybrid Escape with the same features, so I am confused why you think that?
1. The FEH costs a lot more when new. So the resale value compared to the original cost is a lot worse.
2. The vehicle is only 4 years old, and has only 57K. A smart buyer will know that the hybrid warranty is good at least to 100K.
Last edited by stevedebi; 02-09-2011 at 11:04 AM.
#32
Re: Should I even bother with a hybrid??
I think it is better compared with the XLT, the XLS is the bottom of the Escape line. The FEH is a bit better, about $800 more, but that has to be compared to two facts:
1. The FEH costs a lot more when new. So the resale value compared to the original cost is a lot worse.
2. The vehicle is only 4 years old, and has only 57K. A smart buyer will know that the hybrid warranty is good at least to 100K.
1. The FEH costs a lot more when new. So the resale value compared to the original cost is a lot worse.
2. The vehicle is only 4 years old, and has only 57K. A smart buyer will know that the hybrid warranty is good at least to 100K.
#33
Re: Should I even bother with a hybrid??
My FEH is bottom of the line as well. I compared the features list to confirm that the XLS was the closest match with the only difference being the hybrid system. My FEH cost $2,700 more when I purchased it than the non-hybrid, so that is about even with the difference now.
If I were shopping for a used FEH, I would be wary of anything nearing 100K. There is simply too much to go wrong with the hybrid, and the I4 is a much simpler system.
Don't get me wrong, I love my FEH. But I never viewed it as being as economically viable as a conventional model.
#34
Re: Should I even bother with a hybrid??
Yes, I have noticed that not many people can get a simple FEH like mine, they all seem to have higher packages. I prefer simple myself. Perhaps that is why I have always seen the FEH as equally economically viable with the non-hybrid. Based on the taxi experiences, I would not have a problem buying a used FEH with more than 100k, plus I plan to keep mine well past that.
#35
Re: Should I even bother with a hybrid??
Yes, I have noticed that not many people can get a simple FEH like mine, they all seem to have higher packages. I prefer simple myself. Perhaps that is why I have always seen the FEH as equally economically viable with the non-hybrid. Based on the taxi experiences, I would not have a problem buying a used FEH with more than 100k, plus I plan to keep mine well past that.
I'm afraid I fall into that category; I got mine with the Premium package and the order code 700A. Basically everything except sunroof and Nav.
I would not have gone for this much stuff, but at the time this was the only FEH on the lot (out of over 40) that had backup sensors!
EDIT: Actually, it was about 20 FEH, 10 MTH (Mazda Tribute Hybrid), and the rest MMH.
Last edited by stevedebi; 02-09-2011 at 12:31 PM.
#36
Re: Should I even bother with a hybrid??
Jerry-
Here it is in a nutshell.
The first 10 minutes of any drive won't save you gas. You need a hot engine.
Every mile of stop & go after those first 10 minutes will save you 50% gas.
Every mile over the highway at 55 MPH will save you 20% gas.
Every mile over the highway at 65 MPH will save you 10% gas.
Every mile over the highway at 75 MPH won't save you any gas.
This is an ideal car for the residential post man, or downtown Los Angeles driver (or any traffic jam prone city).
It just the same as a gas car for someone who drives all high speed limit interstate.
How you drive determines everything.
HTH,
-John
Here it is in a nutshell.
The first 10 minutes of any drive won't save you gas. You need a hot engine.
Every mile of stop & go after those first 10 minutes will save you 50% gas.
Every mile over the highway at 55 MPH will save you 20% gas.
Every mile over the highway at 65 MPH will save you 10% gas.
Every mile over the highway at 75 MPH won't save you any gas.
This is an ideal car for the residential post man, or downtown Los Angeles driver (or any traffic jam prone city).
It just the same as a gas car for someone who drives all high speed limit interstate.
How you drive determines everything.
HTH,
-John
I would think your last data entry: "Every mile over the highway at 75 MPH won't save you any gas" isn't entirely true unless you're comparing other vehicles with similar engine and transmission combination.
Last edited by Zephyr Boy; 02-20-2011 at 11:04 AM.
#37
Re: Should I even bother with a hybrid??
The Hybrid Escape / Mariner will net about 24 MPG at 75 MPH.
How many other vehicles get 24 MPG at highway speeds?
Answer: Most of 'em.
My 6.6 liter V8 GMC Duramax Diesel 2500HD, extended cab, long bed, a much larger, 6100 pound empty weight truck nets me about 22 MPG at 75 MPH highway. Plus it has a much more comfortable interior for those long trips.
This, oddly enough is the better choice for me for highway driving.
Costs a tad more, but the creature comfort is worth it.
Plus it has enough fuel tank for 750 miles. (36 gallons)
The Escape will go 330 miles or so on a tank at highway speed.
I can buy diesel in the "cheaper" locations when I find 'em with that kind of range.
#39
Re: Should I even bother with a hybrid??
As I said above, my original post is academic now, I have my 2010 XLT with the V6. Only 16k miles on it and saved a bundle. My first tank of about 85% city, 15% highway got me 21.6 mpg (actual, not from the computer). I can't complain about that at all and should do well on the highway. I don't think I'd ever break even with the FEH, and I only drive about 10k/year. I'm a happy camper-love the SYNC and other features, and the car is in as-new condition with years of factory warranty left. I'm getting all my tow stuff together to pull it behind the motorhome, it should work out just fine.
#40
Re: Should I even bother with a hybrid??
As I said above, my original post is academic now, I have my 2010 XLT with the V6. Only 16k miles on it and saved a bundle. My first tank of about 85% city, 15% highway got me 21.6 mpg (actual, not from the computer). I can't complain about that at all and should do well on the highway. I don't think I'd ever break even with the FEH, and I only drive about 10k/year. I'm a happy camper-love the SYNC and other features, and the car is in as-new condition with years of factory warranty left. I'm getting all my tow stuff together to pull it behind the motorhome, it should work out just fine.