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thos19 03-13-2013 12:26 PM

Used 2008 Escape Hybrid: 4wd vs. FWD
 
My 2004 Explorer transmission is on it's last legs and I am considering trading it in for a 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid with about 58k miles.

It is for sale at a Chevy dealership, so I don't put a lot of stock in their information about the vehicle.

Anyway, they claim it is a 4WD model, but I am not convinced. There is no 4x4 symbol on the side of the car, nor are there any switching controls on the dash (like my Explorer has). The salesperson claims that there is no controls because it switches to 4WD mode as needed automatically.

How can a auto mechanically inclined novice like myself tell if it is indeed 4x4 outside of taking it to a mechanic?

Thanks for any help,

Thos.

econoline 03-13-2013 12:40 PM

Re: Used 2008 Escape Hybrid: 4wd vs. FWD
 
Does it have a rear differential? If yes, it's AWD.

elborak 03-13-2013 12:40 PM

Re: Used 2008 Escape Hybrid: 4wd vs. FWD
 
Can't speak specifically for the 2008 (I have a 2006), but on mine there's no outside "branding" that identifies the 4WD variant. There is a 4WD embossed in the dash to the left of the climate controls. Most reliable way is to simply look underneath in the rear.

thos19 03-13-2013 12:47 PM

Re: Used 2008 Escape Hybrid: 4wd vs. FWD
 

Originally Posted by econoline (Post 247435)
Does it have a rear differential? If yes, it's AWD.

Geez...I didn't even think of that. (hangs head...) :embarass:

Thos.

stevedebi 03-13-2013 02:54 PM

Re: Used 2008 Escape Hybrid: 4wd vs. FWD
 

Originally Posted by thos19 (Post 247437)
Geez...I didn't even think of that. (hangs head...) :embarass:

Thos.

I own a 2008 AWD FEH. There are no badges or indicators anywhere on mine, inside or out. Just the filled in space between the rear wheels.

wwest 03-16-2013 10:09 AM

Re: Used 2008 Escape Hybrid: 4wd vs. FWD
 
Even if it is "4WD" it really doesn't function as such. The majority of the time it is simply a somewhat hazardous FWD. The Escape routes engine torque to the rear ONLY under certain specific circumstances.

1.) During low speed acceleration, acceleration from a stop. Up to about 20MPH the harder you press the GO pedal, the more torque will be coupled to the rear, but never more that 1/2, and rarely that.

2.) In addition to the above, the tighter you turn during acceleration the more rapidly the level of torque coupled to the rear will rise. The idea here is to dedicate more front tire traction to lateral forces rather that drive forces.

And FINALLY:

Should wheelspin/slip occur anyway the INSTANT result will be TC activation, FULL engine dethrottling, and braking of the front wheels in order to most quickly alleviate the loss of traction situation and thereby avoid the possibility of loss of directional control.

wptski 03-16-2013 08:16 PM

Re: Used 2008 Escape Hybrid: 4wd vs. FWD
 
Incorrect

#1 incorrect
#2 incorrect

Incorrect

Piquant 03-16-2013 09:44 PM

Re: Used 2008 Escape Hybrid: 4wd vs. FWD
 
Avoid the 2wd in snow/ice of any kind- and sometimes in rain. I have 185k on mine- and is 1wd in any slippery conditions (passenger front) - and with no traction control- wheel just spins away and you go no-where. Great car otherwise-but exceptionally dangerous when snowy or icy- (also iffy if you are in any Midwest gravel road on any grade starting from stop.

Billyk24 03-17-2013 04:48 AM

Re: Used 2008 Escape Hybrid: 4wd vs. FWD
 

Originally Posted by Piquant (Post 247508)
Avoid the 2wd in snow/ice of any kind- and sometimes in rain. I have 185k on mine- and is 1wd in any slippery conditions (passenger front) - and with no traction control- wheel just spins away and you go no-where. Great car otherwise-but exceptionally dangerous when snowy or icy- (also iffy if you are in any Midwest gravel road on any grade starting from stop.

Your experiences do not match some of the long time original FEH owners who have posted on this site in the years past.

wwest 03-17-2013 09:27 AM

Re: Used 2008 Escape Hybrid: 4wd vs. FWD
 

Originally Posted by Billyk24 (Post 247510)
Your experiences do not match some of the long time original FEH owners who have posted on this site in the years past.

Piquant is correct, 2WD, FWD or RWD, are just alike with respect to the lack of TC, TC implemented LSD, or actual LSD. On a slippery surface they all to easily become simple ONE-WHEEL DRIVE vehicles.

But then the addition of TC isn't of much help in getting you up and going initially on that slippery surface, which is why more modern vehicles have a TC off function.


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