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scizolt 12-16-2008 06:54 AM

Hybrid and Standard Accord Accessories
 
As of last night I am the proud owner of a 2005 HAH. :)
What I am wondering is the standard Accord and Hybrid the same body style and lug pattern? What are the differences (besides being a hybrid)?
I'm also looking into getting different rims. Does anyone know the weight of the stock rims and tires? Do they have the air pressure sensors? I didn't see them on the stems and also didnt see any indicator light on the dash.
Sorry about all the questions.
I'm like a little kid right now!!!!!!!

gonehiking 12-16-2008 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by scizolt (Post 193614)
As of last night I am the proud owner of a 2005 HAH. :)
Do they have the air pressure sensors? I didn't see them on the stems and also didnt see any indicator light on the dash.

Congratulations! There is no TPMS on 2005 HAH. TPMS did not become available until 2008 AFAIK.

davidwells 12-17-2008 12:15 PM

Re: Hybrid and Standard Accord Accessories
 
Congratulations as well! (We own 6 cars, the Accord Hybrid is my daily driver)

The sedan bodies are identical, save no trunk pass-through and smaller trunk since the batteries are behind the back seats. (and the cool rubber antenna)

The wheels are unique to the Hybrid Accord, although any Honda 5-lug wheel will fit. I understand the hybrid wheels are a little lighter than the stock 16" (but can't verify that)

Of note, the tire size is 215/60 vs 205/60 for the gas V6. I think this is because the Hybrid has a bit more gross horse power. If you're looking to change your wheel and/or tire size, your speedo and mileage computer will be off a bit.

One more thing, you don't have a spare ('06's do, but 05's have a can of fix-a-flat...) keep that in mind on long trips!

scizolt 12-17-2008 06:06 PM

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Thanks for the great replies. So far I am enjoying the car very much. Today I figured out the voice command and also the cruise control. I am going to very much enjoy the cruise control as some of my commute to work is expressway.
I notice there is a mpg by the speedo and one in the navigation. The speedo one says 27mpg and the Navigation one say 34mpg. What is the difference between the two?
As far as rim the weight goes I have been researching it, but cannot find anything. My friend has a MazdaSpeed 3 and has replaced his stock 18" rims. He said he could sell me the stock rims. I know the weight of his are about 23lbs a piece. I've read that Civic Hybrid rim weight is around 15lbs or so. I'll have to do some more digging on this.

bar10dah 12-17-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by davidwells (Post 193728)
The sedan bodies are identical, save no trunk pass-through and smaller trunk since the batteries are behind the back seats. (and the cool rubber antenna)

That's not entirely correct. The hood and front fenders are not interchangeable on the hybrid and non-hybrid Accords.

I believe you lose about 2 cu/ft with the hybrid due to the battery pack. You hardly notice it since the front of the trunk is pushed back only about an additional 2 inches. It does suck not to have the option of fold-down rear seats. However, in over three years of owning this car, I have never had the need to have the rear seat folded down.

The rubber antenna is where it is on the hybrid because the engineers wanted to move the FM antenna the farthest away from the IMA engine that they could. So they mounted it on top of the XM antenna.

Of course, the wheels being different has already been mentioned. They're designed for reduced unsprung weight to help with fuel economy. They're also said to be more areodynamic to also help with fuel economy. If that's the case, the engineers should put those wheels on ALL their cars! :)

Another difference is the "spoiler" on the trunk lid. It's standard on the hybrid and an option on the non-hybrid. Supposedly, it decreases drag and increases fuel economy. FINALLY! A spoiler that's functional!

georgej 12-17-2008 07:53 PM

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http://www.handa-accessories.com/accord03.html

Here's a good place to buy those accessories:shade:

bar10dah 12-17-2008 08:02 PM

Re: Hybrid and Standard Accord Accessories
 

Originally Posted by scizolt (Post 193758)
I notice there is a mpg by the speedo and one in the navigation. The speedo one says 27mpg and the Navigation one say 34mpg. What is the difference between the two?

Both MPG displays get fuel consumption and/or distance data from different components, so their values will differ. Sounds like yours is off by quite a bit. I've never seen mine off by 7 MPG. I think the average is around 2 MPG. I wonder if the previous owner changed the calibration values in your Navi system?

Also, as far as the wheels go, hybrid and non-hybrid have identical bolt patterns. However, I don't know if they're the same as a Mazda. Keep in mind also that you have to watch for offset, not just bolt patterns and diameter. I'm just guessing that the stock Mazda wheels will be heavier than the stock hybrid Accord wheels. You'll lose MPG, but it might be so small that it might not make much of a difference. You can always try it out, and if you're unhappy, switch back.

scizolt 12-17-2008 08:36 PM

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The bolt pattern is the same as the Mazda 5x114.3. Yes I have been researching the backspacing and offset. I havent found a definite on that yet. I also would agree that they would probably be heavier. Exactly my thought if I dont like it I can always switch back! :D
I think as far as changes right now the 2 biggest on my list are some nice tint and the rims and tires.

bar10dah 12-18-2008 03:10 PM

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The stock wheels look pretty nice! You're not happy with them?

As Georgej has said, H & A Accessories is a great place for OEM Honda parts and a few aftermarket things. Definitely check them out. I've placed 3 or 4 orders from them in the past and have always been pleased with the price and the parts.

scizolt 12-18-2008 06:31 PM

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It's not that I am unhappy with them. I just enjoy customizing my vehicles. Plus the rims would come at a great price.
I did check out H & A they do have a lot of good stuff. I see some things that I think I would like to purchase. Thanks everyone for all of the great input.
One other question can the DVD player play videos? I doubt it will, but thought I would ask anyways.

bar10dah 12-18-2008 07:31 PM

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The HAH does not have a DVD player. At least, not for movies. It has a DVD reader for the NAVI discs, but that's the extent of what that player under the flap in the center stack does.

Someone in another forum did a write-up of a mod they did that allowed them to hook up an external DVD player to the NAVI screen. I don't remember which forum it was in, but if you did an internet search for movies, DVD, NAVI, Accord... you might find it. However, if you're not an electronics person, you run a really big risk of frying your NAVI system since the mod involved soldering output wires from the DVD player to the RGB steering components on the NAVI monitor board.

scizolt 12-18-2008 07:48 PM

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Yep that is a bit farther than I would like to go. Thanks

Fast_Hybrid 01-06-2009 11:25 AM

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I believe the difference in mileage is that the dash calculation uses the odometer and the Navi makes the calculation with the GPS mileage. I have had big differences in the past once in a while as well. I think that the navi may sometimes not calculate mileage if you don't activate the Navi system for a trip by hitting the "I accept" button. The navi may have missed a particularly high or low MPG section of driving.

Also, the HAH has an aluminum hood to reduce weight.

If you need to carry long items (is. skiis), just get a roof rack and rocket box. I just got one from Yakima. However, that and snow tires dropped my highway mileage from 40 down to 32. With snows and without the roof, back up to 38 or so.

Gerald Peers 01-24-2009 02:51 AM

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Several design techniques were used to reduce the weight of the vehicle and therefore make the most of the power available from the hybrid engine, such as removing the sunroof and adding new, lightweight aerodynamic alloy wheels. Additional changes to the ultraefficient hybrid sedan included constructing the hood and bumper out of aluminum and tuning the suspension to accommodate the a sportier ride and feel that corresponded to the change in overall weight.


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