Mid Grade Gas is Cheaper!
#14
Re: Mid Grade Gas is Cheaper!
I would have to take the skeptical side. The small difference in octane rating between regual and mid-grade (usu 89 oct) is not enough to make that much difference in performance.
As stated in various ways above, there are so many other variables, that is would be difficult to prove any real difference unless you had a "virtual shadow car" that drove exactly as you do with another grade of gas for a reasonable amount of time.
Higher octane gas does actually have higher energy per volume (indirectly, allowing higher pressures and temperatures before autodetonation), hence the reason for the differences. However the differences are not large enough to account for your stated differences.
As stated in various ways above, there are so many other variables, that is would be difficult to prove any real difference unless you had a "virtual shadow car" that drove exactly as you do with another grade of gas for a reasonable amount of time.
Higher octane gas does actually have higher energy per volume (indirectly, allowing higher pressures and temperatures before autodetonation), hence the reason for the differences. However the differences are not large enough to account for your stated differences.
#16
Re: Mid Grade Gas is Cheaper!
I would have to take the skeptical side. The small difference in octane rating between regual and mid-grade (usu 89 oct) is not enough to make that much difference in performance.
As stated in various ways above, there are so many other variables, that is would be difficult to prove any real difference unless you had a "virtual shadow car" that drove exactly as you do with another grade of gas for a reasonable amount of time.
As stated in various ways above, there are so many other variables, that is would be difficult to prove any real difference unless you had a "virtual shadow car" that drove exactly as you do with another grade of gas for a reasonable amount of time.
Last edited by HemiSync; 06-06-2008 at 05:46 AM.
#17
Re: Mid Grade Gas is Cheaper!
My first tank of mid grade results are in.
59.9 mpg for 495 miles measured at the pump.
The car computer displayed 57.4 mpg. I noticed this discrepancy during my first 3000 miles and decided to use my calculations at the pump. What's up with that?
I have only found this forum a week ago and am quite pleased with the help and information I receive.
Thanks All!!!
I always use the same pump at the same gas station for each fill up to insure accuracy.
I think the break in period is partly responsible for the higher numbers. I travel about 90 miles round trip per day. Similar conditions each way. This week was hot and windy. A/C for about half the tank.
59.9 mpg for 495 miles measured at the pump.
The car computer displayed 57.4 mpg. I noticed this discrepancy during my first 3000 miles and decided to use my calculations at the pump. What's up with that?
I have only found this forum a week ago and am quite pleased with the help and information I receive.
Thanks All!!!
I always use the same pump at the same gas station for each fill up to insure accuracy.
I think the break in period is partly responsible for the higher numbers. I travel about 90 miles round trip per day. Similar conditions each way. This week was hot and windy. A/C for about half the tank.
#18
Re: Mid Grade Gas is Cheaper!
The computer will not be as accurate as your calculated results, there are a lot of variables in it's calculations and is only an apprx value. I have found if you keep one of the trips just for lifetime mileage that it all averages out after a while.
#19
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Also, keep in mind that higher octane means more ethanol or a few more additives to suppress engine pre ignition. It has been rumored that increasing the ethanol content to 30% will increase perfomance and FE. This was in a previous thread on mixing your own fuel.....
#20
Re: Mid Grade Gas is Cheaper!
Since 1984 I have tested 6 different cars to find out which fuel gives me the best "Miles Per Dollar". In every case I got the best results with mid grade gas by an average of 5 mpg. That's equal to 50 extra miles with a 10 gallon fill-up. Not bad for an extra $0.10 per gallon.
My 2008 Civic Hybrid is still in break-in mode (4000 mi. @ 50 mpg) and have been using 87 octane from the start. This week I have added my first tank of mid grade gas and am averaging 59 mpg! I will have a good average mpg in a few weeks for this higher octane fuel.
Here is a link to an article I posted last year about my 1989 Civic:
Save Money With Mid-Grade Gas
My 2008 Civic Hybrid is still in break-in mode (4000 mi. @ 50 mpg) and have been using 87 octane from the start. This week I have added my first tank of mid grade gas and am averaging 59 mpg! I will have a good average mpg in a few weeks for this higher octane fuel.
Here is a link to an article I posted last year about my 1989 Civic:
Save Money With Mid-Grade Gas