Toyota to put GM in rearview mirror
#11
Re: Toyota to put GM in rearview mirror
Originally Posted by lars-ss
GM needs to figure out their problems or they will cease to exist.
#12
Re: Toyota to put GM in rearview mirror
Originally Posted by fernando_g
Sad news!
Back in the 50s, a GM executive said something to the tone of: "Whatever is good for GM, is also good for America". Not the exact quote, but similar meaning.
Unfortunately, the reverse is also true.
Back in the 50s, a GM executive said something to the tone of: "Whatever is good for GM, is also good for America". Not the exact quote, but similar meaning.
Unfortunately, the reverse is also true.
#13
Re: Toyota to put GM in rearview mirror
Originally Posted by helterskelter683
Weeding out the old school, old guard, stagnation of a nation is a bad thing??? This is how societies cleanse - either you change or you die.
#14
Re: Toyota to put GM in rearview mirror
Of course, the "American" companies are all run by greedy, fat, white, Republican men who have shipped most of the decent-paying American jobs to Third World hellholes so they themselves can get 1.2 billion dollar bonuses for ruining major corporations and trashing the economy at the same time.
The "Foreign" companies like Honda and Toyota both have factories in the United States, while the Big Three prefer their cars made in Mexico where the workers get paid $1.50/hour. No wonder there's no innovation with the Big Three, and that their quality sucks.
The "Foreign" companies like Honda and Toyota both have factories in the United States, while the Big Three prefer their cars made in Mexico where the workers get paid $1.50/hour. No wonder there's no innovation with the Big Three, and that their quality sucks.
#15
Re: Toyota to put GM in rearview mirror
Hi AshenGrey:
___My Ford Ranger was manufactured in the Twin Cities by American UAW members. The Ranger is by far the best truck I have ever owned in terms of price, FE, build quality, and towing capability for a small P/U truck. Maybe I should have driven the Ranger all summer to show you what an All-American P/U is worth in the FE department too Or maybe you would rather not know
___Do you want to hear about some of the other Ford manufacturing facilities in Chicago, IL., Dearborn, Flat Rock, Wayne, and Wixom, MI., Louisville, KY., Kansas City (Claycomo) and St. Louis (Hazelwood), MO., Lorain and Avon Lake, OH., St. Paul, MN. (mentioned above), Norfolk, VA., Edison, NJ. which is also building the B-Series Mazda trucks, and Atlanta, GA.? I am not including the stamping, tranny, and ICE plants throughout much of the US. I will leave it to somebody else to figure out how many Honda automobiles were manufactured in Marysville and Lincoln by comparison …
___Given the Japanese manufactured Corolla has had a CAT replaced at 58K, a water pump at 72K, and the plastic storage tray (it costs over $250 ) broke around the 25,000 mile mark … I haven’t seen all that much difference in quality between an American designed and built small truck and a Japanese designed and built small sedan?
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net
Originally Posted by AshenGrey
The "Foreign" companies like Honda and Toyota both have factories in the United States, while the Big Three prefer their cars made in Mexico where the workers get paid $1.50/hour. No wonder there's no innovation with the Big Three, and that their quality sucks.
___Do you want to hear about some of the other Ford manufacturing facilities in Chicago, IL., Dearborn, Flat Rock, Wayne, and Wixom, MI., Louisville, KY., Kansas City (Claycomo) and St. Louis (Hazelwood), MO., Lorain and Avon Lake, OH., St. Paul, MN. (mentioned above), Norfolk, VA., Edison, NJ. which is also building the B-Series Mazda trucks, and Atlanta, GA.? I am not including the stamping, tranny, and ICE plants throughout much of the US. I will leave it to somebody else to figure out how many Honda automobiles were manufactured in Marysville and Lincoln by comparison …
___Given the Japanese manufactured Corolla has had a CAT replaced at 58K, a water pump at 72K, and the plastic storage tray (it costs over $250 ) broke around the 25,000 mile mark … I haven’t seen all that much difference in quality between an American designed and built small truck and a Japanese designed and built small sedan?
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net
#16
Re: Toyota to put GM in rearview mirror
Originally Posted by AshenGrey
GM hasn't innovated in 30 years and mostly makes hulks that are shot by 70k mile.
#17
Re: Toyota to put GM in rearview mirror
Noting the fact that the American auto companies are a) behind the 8-ball on hybrid development (yes- their own fault, I know), and that they're losing over 1,000 per car they build (staggering health care costs via the UAW), and that the Japanese companies are eating their lunch with the hybrids, I've recently come to believe that the American oil companies should make a deal with the gov't and the auto companies and the UAW. The deal would be:
To avoid some kind of 'windfall profits' taxation, the oil companies should fund the American auto companies' hybrid research programs with the stipulation that the UAW get their medical costs to the auto companies under control.
US wins because of lessened ME oil demand.
Auto companies win because of increased market share due to more fuel efficient vehicles.
Oil companies win because their taxation won't be excessively punative.
Unions win because more auto sales mean more workers and maybe even bonuses som e day!
I only buy fuel produced from domestic or North Atlantic crude. No mid-east oil!!!!!
Don
To avoid some kind of 'windfall profits' taxation, the oil companies should fund the American auto companies' hybrid research programs with the stipulation that the UAW get their medical costs to the auto companies under control.
US wins because of lessened ME oil demand.
Auto companies win because of increased market share due to more fuel efficient vehicles.
Oil companies win because their taxation won't be excessively punative.
Unions win because more auto sales mean more workers and maybe even bonuses som e day!
I only buy fuel produced from domestic or North Atlantic crude. No mid-east oil!!!!!
Don
#18
Re: Toyota to put GM in rearview mirror
Originally Posted by AshenGrey
Of course, the "American" companies are all run by greedy, fat, white, Republican men who have shipped most of the decent-paying American jobs to Third World hellholes so they themselves can get 1.2 billion dollar bonuses for ruining major corporations and trashing the economy at the same time.
The "Foreign" companies like Honda and Toyota both have factories in the United States, while the Big Three prefer their cars made in Mexico where the workers get paid $1.50/hour. No wonder there's no innovation with the Big Three, and that their quality sucks.
The "Foreign" companies like Honda and Toyota both have factories in the United States, while the Big Three prefer their cars made in Mexico where the workers get paid $1.50/hour. No wonder there's no innovation with the Big Three, and that their quality sucks.
My Chevy Tahoe was built in Arlington, Texas. Some of the parts yes are made in Mexico that is true but most of the parts and assembly is here in the US. When Honda built it’s assembly plant in Ohio the machinery and equipment was brought from Japan, they would not allow tools and equipment from here. US manufactured equipment for assembly is second to none.Kevin
#20
Re: Toyota to put GM in rearview mirror
Originally Posted by dshelman
I only buy fuel produced from domestic or North Atlantic crude. No mid-east oil!!!!!