So, what do you think of gay marriages and Bush opposing them?
"He has always strongly believed that marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. |
Originally posted by Jumperless@Mar 1st 2004 @ 3:55 PM So, what do you think of gay marriages and Bush opposing them? I had a little discussion with a friend about this very subject this last Saturday. The gist of it was that I have not yet been offered any explanation, other than embarrassment, of how gay marriage materially affects a non-gay relationship or marriage. My friend, who is religous if you look close enough, made an astounding observation that I kind of agree with. ALL marriages should become "civil unions" and only the church to which any couple is attached may refer to the union as a "marriage". It is not (in our opinions) the realm of the Government to decide what is and is not a marriage. I find this as refreshing as the idea that in order to consider the flag a suitable representative image of this country, it must be constructed of a non-combustable material. I consider a constitiutional ammendment to the effect of "defining marriage" an abomination. I usually retort "This doesn't go far enough - we have to define marriage as a union WHITE man and a WHITE woman!" (or Black, etc - take your pick! It works out the same!) - Let's see how many hackles THAT raises! BTW: The next town north of me is in the news these days - New Paltz NY is performing marriages as well. More power to them. the funny thing is, a mayor of a near-by town who IS gay is rather against it - saying "now is not the time" - go figure. Jack - Straight, but not Narrow. |
What rights are granted in a marriage and not a civil union?
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Hey, this was part of the candidate thread. Jason, are you playing forum God?
Anyway, I think marriage is a religious definition, while civil union is a legal definition. |
Yes, I am :) Best to stay on topic. I'm aware that this evolved in to a gay marriage debate, not one of political candidates.
Besides your philosophy, what LEGALLY is the difference? |
None that I know, legally they’re the same.
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Then why do talk show hosts, etc. say they are in favor of "civil unions" but not "marriages?"
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Not entirely sure, I think marriage is originally a religious word, so many have problems with it being used for gay …uh…unions, including gay couples.
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one word...oxymoron...nuff said
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A civil union denies the couple federal rights, including bereavement or sick leave to take care for a partner or a partner's child; pension or social security continuation when a partner dies; the ability to keep a jointly owned home if a partner goes on Medicaid, dies, or becomes sick; joint tax returns and exemptions for primary relationships on estate taxes; veteran's discounts on medical care, education, and home loans; immigration and residency for partners from other countries.
Let them marry. Our country is based on the Constitution, not a Bible. |
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